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Women have for millennia been taught that their role is to be subservient to men so this will get a downvote from me.
Is this a mra community? I’m new and don’t know a whole lot about the different servers and all, so it’s a genuine question. Not trying to be snotty.
No, this is a meme community and feddit.uk is a UK focused instance. I don’t know why a bunch of MRAs are going off in the comments about domestic abuse, it doesn’t even seem that related to the image posted.
Men will be happy if she can cook and likes to have sex. Maybe Dad can help her out with one of those.
Which part is Dad helping out with, barneypiccolo? Which part is dad helping out with?
Is it a Red or a Blue household?
Hopefully 💙
I just do this real crazy thing where I treat everyone with respect, without consideration for their sex.
That’s a taserin’
But… but… mah patriarchy!
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Gtfo you weirdo! Making war over perceived differences is the most natural human thing we’ve got!
I bet you don’t see color, either…
How weird, Sounds like a systemglitch or something.
“My mum taught me how to treat a woman” is either dumb or creepy
Approaching and treating others like human beings regardless of their sex and gender? Too much to ask?
Yeah, but we don’t educate our children in a cultural vacuum. We have to teach our children to respect everyone, but when we educate boys we have to fight the culture of rape, so we have to be especially attentive to teach boys how to interact with women.
My point being that you should learn that women just like men are human beings and as such there is no special treatment in the context of the original tweet. The way it’s phrased implies that there is a special treatment for women that needs to be learned separately from how to treat men. If the tweet was in the spirit of “she taught me that women should be treated with the same respect as men” I wouldn’t have made my remark.
My point still stands. A general lesson about how to treat other humans is not enough, parents need to teach especially boys how to treat women, because the society will teach otherwise. You don’t need to teach that men are humans; unfortunately we have to teach that women are too.
So yes, let’s teach our sons how to treat women.
Agree this is way too gendered.
Teach everyone to behave compassionately in relationships, learn to argue, learn to collaborate, learn to cooperate. Good relationship skills are what everyone needs.
The strongly gendered part is the stand against the manosphere and stand against violence/misogyny.
Also, this isn’t just about romantic relationship. I would have really appreciated if anyone I looked up to showed me how to connect with fellow guys/peers.
I agree, kids don’t get taught a lot of really important social skills (regardless of gender.) A lot of parents seem to think that just putting their kid around other kids is going to magically teach them social skills. I admit, growing up with undiagnosed autism may have me biased here, but I also work with autistic kids and part of my job is to teach them social skills. Not every child has this resource, and although I do my best to guide the little ones I work with, I know that even neurotypical kids are thrown to the wilds, by parents who refuse to intervene in issues because “they have to figure it out themselves.”
To a degree, I get it - kids need to learn how to solve their own problems independently, especially as they get older. But if parents don’t provide any structure at all when a kid is young, where are the kids going to learn from? Other kids. Other kids who likely also haven’t been given sufficient guidance on how to problem-solve social issues.
We need to do better for our children. We need to reinforce pro-social behavior whenever possible. I don’t wait for my (work) kids to independently share their toys, but when another kid plays with something my kid really likes, I get ahead of potential issues by telling my kid, “I love how you’re sharing your music box with so-and-so!” It makes a big difference in how they react, and goes to show that providing a bit of proactive praise now and then can go a long way toward building good social habits.
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Based on the way a lot of people are behaving Im not sure anyone is being taught manners.
Ain’t this the truth.
The amount of women that think physical violence against their male partners is acceptable or not an issue is disgustingly high.
Is it so hard to teach to not hit people at all?
My first girlfriend hit me, I never even clocked that it was unusual until I noticed I started flinching when she lifted her hand. Shed do it in front of others, no one cared. I don’t think it’s just women who think that when a woman is violent against their male partner it’s okay. Almost everyone thinks it’s at least preferable to a man hitting a woman.
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You got a point there.
This is such a stupid thing to inject gender into.
“The amount of men that think physical violence against their female partners is acceptable or not an issue is disgustingly high”…
I think we can all agree that any amount of violence towards a partner is too much. If we wanted to inject gender into the equation statistically women are more likely to be battered by their male partners, who obviously think it’s an acceptable thing to do.
It IS a gendered issue.
Men ARE taught from an early age don’t hit girls. Boys and men who do are social outcasts for it. In a public setting men and women will step in to defend the woman.
None of the above is true about a woman attacking a man. In a public setting you’ll see indifference or even coming to the woman’s aid in attacking the man. In media slapping men is just seen as acceptable. There is zero social stigma against women being violent towards men. The assumption is always that he must deserve it.
Less than a stigma, it’s a punchline.
And “deserve it” even when it’s used for a punchline is “man dumb so deserve violence,” not using violence in self defense.
Exactly, and that’s why more men than women die at the hands of their partners. (/s, if it’s not obvious)
Of course it’s unacceptable for women to hurt men, but please, let’s not reverse the problem.
Both sexes participate in intimate partner violence at rates close-ish to parity (it’s something like a 60/40 split). Interestingly, despite the social narrative that IPV is all men’s fault, gay male relationships have less of it than straight ones, and lesbian relationships have more.
Studies and statistics based on arrests, convictions, or other interactions with law enforcement are really bad at identifying female perpetrated IPV because often law enforcement ignores IPV perpetrated by a woman. It’s fallout from training built on the Duluth model that’s been around forever. When you build policy and training around something and that something is shown not to be accurate the training and policy doesn’t just go away.
It’s now a very old clip, but this really shows how society handles this kind of thing:
Has much changed in the last 10 years?
Look at the people around, do any of them look like they approve this?
Just because no one wants to risk getting involved with a psycho, when statistically the abused will side with the abuser in such a situation against you, does not mean society accepts it.
I mean, when the woman was the victim, they got together and helped her deal with it. When the man was the victim, they either ignored it or in a few cases were caught by the camera smiling at what was happening.
If you’ve ever been the victim of bullying you should already know that bystanders, by not stopping the perpetrators, implicitly validate it. That’s how the perpetrators continue.
If you have not been a victim of public harrassment, kindly, stfu.
Don’t you dare demand the public step in to risk their life when you won’t even leave a relationship.
Ooh spicy take
I’m not demanding anything, I’m countering your point that silent disapproval means that it’s shunned upon. It’s not. I’m not blaming anyone for not stepping in, I’ve also not stepped in several times, but be aware that that’s enabling.
“Society is against this kind of behaviour” no it isn’t, it fucking isn’t. Sometimes individuals have good reasons, whatever, but the conclusion is that abusers feel enabled. And I’m not even touching the disparity between genders in these situations.
My past made that difficult to watch even though I knew they were actors. Jesus… Fuck everyone in that crowd who laughed.
Men ARE taught from an early age don’t hit girls. Boys and men who do are social outcasts for it. In a public setting men and women will step in to defend the woman.
And yet…women are still more likely to be victims of domestic violence.
Obviously societal mores are not an effective deterrent, otherwise we 1/3 women wouldn’t be victims of domestic violence .
I’m not claiming that men do not experience domestic violence, or trying to claim it’s not important to educate people the rate of violence men experience. I’m just saying that claiming more women are okay with committing domestic violence than men is just statistically incorrect.
None of the above is true about a woman attacking a man. In a public setting you’ll see indifference or even coming to the woman’s aid in attacking the man.
I think most people are taught at an early age not to hit people regardless of gender. Judging by the amount of down votes my response has, it seems plenty of people would be willing to ostracize a women who batter their partners.
There is zero social stigma against women being violent towards men. The assumption is always that he must deserve it.
Lol, then why are you upset? Are you not part of society? Societal views on domestic violence have changed pretty significantly in the last 30 years. I don’t think anyone is really cool standing by and letting anyone beat their spouse in public.
I think you are relying pretty heavily on anecdotal assumptions about social constructs instead of the actual evidence we have available that proves women are more likely to be victims of domestic abuse than men.
My dad taught me how to treat a woman by being distant and disconnected with my mom.
So I do the opposite.
Honestly, is that what moms are doing? I have not exeprienced it. If anything, both my parents were overly worried by me hitting puberty. No “bees and flowers” talk either, they relied on my school providing that.
No, I got no relationship advice from either of my parents, other than their living examples. Which wasn’t very good, as advice.
I also don’t see why moms should give it to their sons, and dads to their daughters, exclusively?
I suspect what this guy refers to are tropes from song lyrics, which might come from a place of hardship, maybe a mother raising a child without a father. And now I think of it, I’ve heard women sing this also: “my mother told me about love…” So in the end it’s about absent fathers, once again.
Pretty much the exact same meatheads who daydream of all the grisly things they’ll do to any young man who even looks at their daughter with a disturbingly psycho-sexual fervour.
His mother taught him to go down on women?
Everything is sex obviously
How to treat a woman… real good.
