The problem isn’t (just) that this might hurt would-be theives. It’s that it harms indiscriminately for anyone that tries to lift the item. There are any number of reasons that someone may legally and in good faith try to lift your cooler. Including but not limited to:
-Your cooler fell off your boat, and someone was retrieving it for you.
-Someone thought you stole their cooler and they were lifting it up to look for identifying marks or a name/label/sticker to verify.
-They were a guest that you forgot to warn or who forgot the warning.
-They’re a law enforcement officer preforming a warranted search of your boat.
-They’re a first responder trying to move the cooler to make space to resuscitate someone.
And even if none of that were the case, defense of property must be reasonable and proportional, and never outways human life. Injuries like this can leave someone with permanent impairment to the use of and feeling in their hands. It can also be a serious risk of infection that can kill someone. None of that is acceptable just to protect your Yeti cooler, my dudes, particularly when less injurious means of protecting your property, like storing it, tethering it, or using technology like a trip switch, alarm, motion sensing lights or a camera are options as well. Is it OK to steal? No. It’s it okay to maim indiscriminately to prevent theft? Also no.
It’s nice to see Lemmy will be continuing Reddit’s tradition of believing booby traps are ok because anyone trying to touching your precious things deserves the be physically hurt, regardless of the countless ways it can hurt other people who were doing nothing wrong.
This example isn’t even defendable from a home defense angle because you left the thing out on the damn boat, not locked away. At that point it’s not just a booby trap, it’s a baited trap.
And for fucks sake it’s a damn cooler, who cares this much about it but leave it where anyone can get it?
Especially people in the US seem to have a weird violence boner. It’s (unfortunately) perfectly normal that some people like violence, but over there, a concerning percentage of people think that every minor transgression justifies violence.
Look at the comments below those typical “fuck around and find out” videos. A guy snatches a hat as a bad joke and gets beaten up. That’s not okay, that’s assault, but the comments celebrate it.
In any case, equating taking a hat and physical violence is just absolutely bonkers. Every psychologist would diagnose that as an anger management disorder.
Assault is generally defined as an intentional act that puts another person in reasonable apprehension of imminent harmful or offensive contact. No physical injury is required, but the actor must have intended to cause a harmful or offensive contact with the victim and the victim must have thereby been put in immediate apprehension of such a contact.
“Intention” in the context of assault, means that the act is not accidental, but motive is immaterial.
It does not matter if the goal of the tortfeasor (assaulter) was merely to scare the victim or if the act was meant as a joke.
The tortfeasor need not have intended for the contact to be harmful or offensive, only to have intended the actual contact.
lol it’s a psychological disorder joke bro, it was defensive contact when I grabbed your giant hat off your fucking giant head, can’t you take a joke bro, you got anger issues bro
The problem isn’t (just) that this might hurt would-be theives. It’s that it harms indiscriminately for anyone that tries to lift the item. There are any number of reasons that someone may legally and in good faith try to lift your cooler. Including but not limited to:
-Your cooler fell off your boat, and someone was retrieving it for you.
-Someone thought you stole their cooler and they were lifting it up to look for identifying marks or a name/label/sticker to verify.
-They were a guest that you forgot to warn or who forgot the warning.
-They’re a law enforcement officer preforming a warranted search of your boat.
-They’re a first responder trying to move the cooler to make space to resuscitate someone.
And even if none of that were the case, defense of property must be reasonable and proportional, and never outways human life. Injuries like this can leave someone with permanent impairment to the use of and feeling in their hands. It can also be a serious risk of infection that can kill someone. None of that is acceptable just to protect your Yeti cooler, my dudes, particularly when less injurious means of protecting your property, like storing it, tethering it, or using technology like a trip switch, alarm, motion sensing lights or a camera are options as well. Is it OK to steal? No. It’s it okay to maim indiscriminately to prevent theft? Also no.
It’s nice to see Lemmy will be continuing Reddit’s tradition of believing booby traps are ok because anyone trying to touching your precious things deserves the be physically hurt, regardless of the countless ways it can hurt other people who were doing nothing wrong.
This example isn’t even defendable from a home defense angle because you left the thing out on the damn boat, not locked away. At that point it’s not just a booby trap, it’s a baited trap.
And for fucks sake it’s a damn cooler, who cares this much about it but leave it where anyone can get it?
Especially people in the US seem to have a weird violence boner. It’s (unfortunately) perfectly normal that some people like violence, but over there, a concerning percentage of people think that every minor transgression justifies violence.
Look at the comments below those typical “fuck around and find out” videos. A guy snatches a hat as a bad joke and gets beaten up. That’s not okay, that’s assault, but the comments celebrate it.
Snatching a hat is also assault.
No. That’s theft at most.
In any case, equating taking a hat and physical violence is just absolutely bonkers. Every psychologist would diagnose that as an anger management disorder.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/assault
lol it’s a psychological disorder joke bro, it was defensive contact when I grabbed your giant hat off your fucking giant head, can’t you take a joke bro, you got anger issues bro
WTF artificial intelligence shitpost is this?
😂
What? The fuck did my comment have to do with AI?