• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    But we’re comparing getting a Kei truck instead of regular truck in this part of the conversation so it actually does make sense to discuss the safety question.

    The conversation you want to have is elsewhere in this post.

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      5 months ago

      No, I think OP is making a valid point. If you start with a Kei and just add in modern safety features and nothing else, the size of the vehicle will be a lot closer to the Kei than the other monstrosity.

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          5 months ago

          I’m not saying the modern Kei must be safe. I’m saying if you do things to make it safer while prioritizing small size, you’ll end up with something a lot closer to the size of the Kei than the other car.

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            5 months ago

            you’ll end up with something a lot closer to the size of the Kei than the other car.

            They literally just provided that vehicle for you…… still not safe…… because it can’t be done at that size… instead of claiming something, provide an example to show it’s even possible mate.

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              5 months ago

              Smart gets a 5 star crash rating and is smaller than a. Kei truck. It can be done. Get Smart to make a pickup, literally just stick a bed on the back of the thing.

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              5 months ago

              I’m not saying at that size! I’m saying that whatever size increase you need to make a reasonably safe pickup would be closer to the small extreme (the Kei) than the large extreme.

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                5 months ago

                Then you end up with the smaller trucks we already have on the market or a Maverick that has a bed so small that it’s not that useful for actual truck stuff…

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                  5 months ago

                  Surely you can imagine a truck that may or may not currently be on the market. This theoretical truck is minimally large enough to be reasonably safe, and also has a bed is as big as the trucks pictured. Like, a truck that does not have four doors and two rows of seating.

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                5 months ago

                Looks like it can hold about a third of the capacity of the truck and a 1/10 of the towing? Yeah they aren’t comparable when you account for what matters. It has a bed is about the lowest a factor when looking for a truck, capacity and towing is what people look for.

                But of course people deflect from these and just spout it’s the same bed size like that matters?

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                  Let’s be honest, the bed size doesn’t matter either since the majority of the trucks you see on the road are carrying nothing more than a LARPing driver – that’s why they keep making them smaller and smaller.

                  But the numbers you pulled out of your ass weren’t part of the criteria when you told us all it “wasn’t possible”.

                  Also, I absolutely adore the salty little down votes you give anyone who replies to your comment without agreeing with you, even when you demand a reply. It’s like something a grumpy toddler would do.

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                    5 months ago

                    Those numbers aren’t out of my ass, it has a towing of 1000kg, most full size trucks have 10,000……

                    And why would towing and capacity not be part of the conversation…? They are literally the two most important factors when deciding on trucks.

                    Why does everyone deflect from the actual reasons people buy trucks and perpetuate this stupid “bed size is what matters? People who use trucks know this how car people talk about trucks…… because that’s literally not a concern for people who use trucks… you’re literally showing your bias and lack of education lmfao.

            • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              5 months ago

              because it can’t be done at that size

              it literally can be? You just don’t need to crash it into a freight train. The reason most large vehicles are so much safer is because you are significantly more likely to kill the other person in a car crash, especially if they’re in a smaller car, and if they’re not, then both you and the other party will experience significantly more impact forces compared to using a smaller car, which fun fact, makes surviving crashes a whole lot easier.