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    Damn near anything good works under proton. Cyberpunk 2077 is basically flawless out of the box. No issues with a lot of other newer games.

    Ironically some of the older ones like Fallout 3 need a little bit of hackery to get the radio working

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    The site is https://www.protondb.com/ if you want to check your own library.

    Can you use that site to see which of your games fall into each category? I’ve got a few in the red bronze and silver, but it would be nice to see at a glance which of them it is.

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      For my library of 390 games, only 2 are “Borked”.

      One is Magic: Duels, which was discontinued by WOTC back in 2019. It’s still playable on Windows, but seeing as it was kind of a weird experiment they did that ultimately got replaced by Arena I can understand the lack of support there. Also it was free, and I got clean a few years ago, so I’m not salty.

      The other of Flatout 3 (the car racing/destruction game, not to be confused with the similarly named Fallout 3). I remembered seeing ads and reviews for Flatout back in PSM when I was a kid. Never got to play it back then, but I grabbed the series bundle on sale at some point. Still haven’t played any of them yet, but it appears the issue with Flatout 3 in particular is… It’s a bad game. Just learned this now, but apparently it was made by a different developer than the first games and is, by review score, one of the worst games of all time. So there’s probably not a whole lot of demand for it on Linux.

      Fun stuff. Always neat to find a new way to look at the library.

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    18 months ago I tried to roll my own SteamBox. Games launched from Steam worked great. Everything launched from other launchers was mixed, but wouldn’t launch from Steam…generally speaking. I switched back to Windows and removed the login because I wanted a console-like experience.

    I wish Valve would launch an updated SteamOS.

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      You can configure your OS to boot directly into Steam Big Picture mode, then add lutris/heroic as non steam games.

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        I did that, except I couldn’t get Lutris or Heroic to work. Also tried several distros and delving into repositories… several weeks and I just couped get it to work. Ironically, W11 does exactly what I wanted, even with uac.

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        I’ll take a look. I tried 4 or 5 distros like Nobara. Had to pull from old repositories. Learned a lot but after a few weeks, I just wanted to play games and I found a way for w11 to work the way I wanted.

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        Tried it. It’s been at least a year and a half, but if memory serves, I think I always had to login for startup. I wanted to be able to just turn on and have steam roll into it’s startup screen like a console.

        Tried 4 or 5 distros and each had an issue that kept me from that console like experience. Ironically, I was able to do that with w11.

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        I’ve been on Pop for most of the time I’ve been gaming on Linux. Though I am currently switching to Arch for reasons, Pop has been great. Very easy, very stable across the board.

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    Out of everything i play, the only game holding me back is Destiny 2, which was explicitly refused support for.

    Everything else works phenomenally well, and in some rare cases, performs a lot better.

    The only struggle point is heavily modded games with tools that assume i’m doing this on windows, but times are changing too

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      Like The Elder Scrolls? I’ve been paying Oblivion for a while with a ton of mods using a mod manager and I don’t know how to run this in Linux.

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        https://github.com/rockerbacon/modorganizer2-linux-installer Small caveat at the moment though is that Protontricks is borked and requires a more up to date version than what’s on most repos and flathub. I used the pipx install for Protontricks and that one worked though, but I think the beta branch on Flathub has an updated version now as well, which hopefully goes stable soon. Nexus is also working on a new cross platform compatible mod manager now, but that’s going to be far away.

        For a lot of other games r2modman + Thunderstore are also working natively on Linux. Games like Stardew Valley have a native mod manager like Stardrop.

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    72% platinum and gold, 86% plat, gold and silver. I’m honestly surprised that this isn’t higher because almost everything I play just works (I do have a lot of random games in my account from humble bundles and such, so I don’t even play a good amount of them).

    Funny enough what I’ve been playing recently is Minecraft. Downloaded the Prism launcher, linked my account, installed the game and the BetterMC modpack which includes pretty heavy lighting shaders, get an easy 120fps with absolutely zero tinkering besides telling the game to use my systems OpenAL rather than the bundled one, as that was causing a crash. I do have a relatively beefy system so the performance isn’t what I’m impressed by, moreso the fact that this was all up and running in 5 minutes.

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        Yes of course this is a huge factor, but modding games in general tends to be a sticking point. The fact that I immediately had a heavily modded game up and running via a third party launcher with only one minor issue, which was fixed via a single checkbox, was just a really nice experience.

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      5 MINUTES to install and play a game? Including a bug fix? By a knowledgeable person?

      That probably translates into an hour for me, if my googling gets lucky, or complete frustration more likely.

      Damnit, I was hoping I could move to Linux, I’ve used it before, even had it dual-booting with Windows a couple of times, but I never got comfortable with it.

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          I’m not trying to be antagonistic.

          I guess when the pain of Windows becomes high enough that it’s worth the need to understand more about your computer, it’s parts, and it’s functioning I’ll have to transition. I don’t like having to “make things work.” I had difficulty getting Radar, Sonarr, Docker, and Overseerr to run in Windows. It’s still not configured right.

          What the hell chance will a guy like me have to not be frustrated working in a Linux environment? I’m willing to try hard things. But it doesn’t come naturally.

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            If you got those running in windows, given they’re built for a Linux environment (I guess you either used docker or windows subsystem for Linux), then you’re eminently ready to move to Linux.

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                I’ll be honest, I’m still screwing around trying to get a working *arr stack on my pi4b, but then I’m also looking for more stuff on there and having it deployed as a network device automatically with dimension hosting, DNS, DHCP and stuff like that with a glutun VPN securing it all… So yeah :⁠-⁠D

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        I just downloaded the .deb and installed it without having to change anything.

        But don’t get me started on my problems I had with that f…ing microsoft account to get onto our shared server. Somehow I am too dumb for that (same on the tablet).

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          Oh my god don’t get me started, the last time I tried that, it took me over two fucking hours to get the Microsoft account to recognize that I owned Minecraft. Apparently I bought the game so long ago that it failed to unify my accounts correctly so the separate “enter your password” screen just failed to load? I had to reset my account and open an entire new outlook.com email address just to link my purchase to the account I already have.

          Fuck those losers who succeeded only in making the game worse to encourage platform lock in so they can replace Java with Bedrock.

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    Call me when my DRG works “out of the box” like every guide says, when xlink kai and dolphin stop bugging out for some reason, when Ryujinx and other lan emulators or games allow me to connect through my vpn with my friend, or when tModLoader stops doing weird things with the light.

    I am tired of trying and troubleshooting, it might just be my hardware, it might be something else, who tf knows? But doesn’t matter how much I want to jump ship if the ship just doesn’t work for some unknown reason.

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      I’m going to assume that you do not mean Deep Rock Galactic with that acronym because that has worked out of the box since day one I play it regularly with friends on the steam deck and on my Linux desktop and the only thing I had to do was click play in Steam.

      Can’t help you with your emulators, I used dolphin to play dokepone Kingdom regularly over VPN without any issues didn’t have to do anything special either so that one just sounds like a skill issue

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        Yes, I mean DRG and thank you for showing everyone what I’ve run into. It runs in everyone’s pc, whenever I try to play, it doesn’t even open, I’ve troubleshooted and every time it’s “well it runs on my pc out of the box”, well, thank you, but it doesn’t fix whatever problem my pc has. Every guide and faq says “it just works, fuck you”, that’s perfect to make me stick to windos.

        Also your mom is a skill issue.

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      If you don’t have previous experience with Linux, there will be a learning curve, but depending on your hardware, it may be gentle or steeper. Likewise, your choice of distro may matter a lot, at least at first.

      But you should take ProtonDB ratings as a good indicator that “might just be my hardware” is correct, at least for DRG. It also works out of the box for me on both my main rig (=currently running Pop) and the Steam Deck.

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    What I don’t get is why some games (even newer ones) don’t work in newer versions of proton but do work in older versions of proton.

    I’m talking games working in proton 7.x or 8.<low number> that don’t work in say proton 9 or proton 8.<higher number>.

    I rarely seem to have any luck with newer versions let alone proton experimental.

    🤷‍♂️

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      Some newer tweaks might interfere with older games, but in my personal experience it’s very rare that a game does not work with the latest versions and I typically run experimental or the latest GE build.

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      I think I got it.

      The right side is showing what percentage of games can be played at each level. Platinum is flawless, and borked is… borked. The percentages below that show that 84% of games are super playable, 95% if you’re willing to settle for silver.

      The outside ring is the one that shows these percentages.

      I’m still unsure of the center rings though.

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        The rings from top to bottom:

        ProtonDB Medals (ProtonDB’s appraisal: How does it play. You may need to tinker.)

        ProtonDB Click Play (ProtonDB’s new appraisal: How does it play without any tinkering)

        Deck Verified

        Chromebook Ready

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      I miss Wildstar! I played at launch and loved it, But the bots and issues around launch caused my friends to stop playing after a month or two. I kept going for a while but eventually stopped as well. So much cool lore and world building in that game.

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    Linux gamer for 3+ years now. I rarely, rarely have any issues with anything at all, and most of those are solved by switching to Proton GE or Experimental. Most of the time I think stuff actually runs better than on Windows.

    But to be clear, I don’t really play anything multiplayer. The sole exceptions like Civ VI have worked perfectly fine, but my understanding is that a big reason these larger multiplayer games don’t work is their anticheat.

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      Yep. For games, it is usually some crappy anticheat, for other applications (outside games) it is crappy licence managers. Or really, really inept programmers. Professionally inept programmers.

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      I’m about a year in. One interesting thing is that older games seem to work better with Proton than they do on Windows. For example, after installing Psychonauts on Windows I had to Google why it wouldn’t load and try a few ini changes until I found what worked. On Linux, I just started it and it worked with no issues.

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        But to be clear, I don’t really play anything multiplayer.

        I tried to avoid such bias by being clearer about what I play. I don’t think it’s biased to suggest single player games are more likely to work without issue.

        Likewise, if you’re on nvidia, you’re more likely to have issues.

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        AMD. That was an early switch I made since the nvidia experience on Linux sucks (at least compared to AMD). Minimally it’s the difference between juggling poorly supported drivers and not dealing with drivers at all (since AMD’s are in the kernel), but I’ve gathered that there are many compatibility issues as well.

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            There’s no reason to, there’s nothing wrong with Nvidia. I game on it without any issues. Most people on Linux use Nvidia.

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              It is decidedly more work, particularly for those not familiar with Linux. But you’re right that there aren’t necessarily other issues – it all comes down to the particular titles one wants to play. ProtonDB is everyone’s friend.

              For me personally, I love the simplicity of the all-AMD approach, and as I’m only a 1080p gamer, I really don’t need the nvidia horsepower anyway.

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            nvidia user here, made a “soft switch” to linux some time ago, and got to say the current 555 series drivers made a world of a difference. Most games just work.

            Haven’t made a full switch due doubts with music and video production stuff. But, slowly testing my way in and dualbooting between OS’s in the meantime

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                yep. Tested GOG version of Cyberpunk and RT, DLSS, and all that work. Other than that, games with RT or DLSS I’ve tested and deemed working: Observer (RT&DLSS), Enshrouded (DLSS), Warframe (DLSS).

                I have a 3090.

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    Proton is like magic. I remember when gaming on Linux only worked for some rather old games. Now you can almost buy anything from Steam and expect it to work on Linux. What surprised me the most was that even Enderal, an excellent total conversion mod for Skyrim, just worked. The same goes for the newest Hitman. I expected that I have to do some tinkering, but no. You click play and that is it. I doubt that any of these games where ever tested on Linux by their developers. That they all work so well shows how good of a job the developers of Proton, DXVK, and Wine are doing.

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        I use MO2 with quirks. I’m trying to remember what all I did, but I think I renamed MO2 to SkyrimLauncher.exe so steam would open MO2. Then I would launch Skyrim (skse) from there!

        The quirks were you couldn’t install inside of MO2 because it wouldn’t connect to Nexus. The other thing was if I was installing a lot of mods or doing a lot of interactions in MO2 it would get slower and slower. Restarting it fixed that.

        All that said I put a ton of hours into a 500ish mod game without issues!

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        I don’t know. I never was much into modded Skyrim. The last time I played Skyrim was around 2012. Enderal installs like any other Steam game and comes with its own launcher. I only played Enderal because it was recommended to me since I really liked Gothic II and story focused games. I now also highly recommend it. This mod is better than at least 90% of games released in the last 10 years.

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    I was so surprised that I was able to get Genshin running on my steam deck through wine. I remember when the deck came out, everyone was saying that games that use anti cheat software wouldn’t work on the deck. But both Genshin and Elden Ring work on the deck.

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      Now that’s great to know, I’m not on genshin anymore since they are very cheap with rewards, but I still love Star Rail and been playing ZZZ, was afraid of switching.

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      I think Genshin removed their anticheat after it was used by ransomware

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        The anticheat ignores its kernel module fails to load on Wine since v3.8, otherwise the AC is still there. Same goes for ZZZ. The ransomware does not require user to have GI installed to run so GI removing the anticheat would do nothing, MS had to unsign vulnerable driver. Idk if they did.

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          The ransomware does not require user to have GI installed to run so GI removing the anticheat would do nothing,

          True. Maybe MS just doesn’t want to sign their driver anymore.

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        Oh really? Then why does it still need permission to run on Windows? I thought that was due to the anticheat ?

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      that use anti cheat software wouldn’t work on the deck

      Not all anti cheat mechanisms are the same, but the worst ones are kernel-hooking ones for multiple reasons. Besides security, stability and privacy issues with them they also have compatibility issues with any OS they weren’t built specifically for