And the rest:
And the thread in question:
https://lemmy.world/post/11713611
So we need to have a long and serious talk about the authoritarian chucklefucks you all are allowing to dominate your platform, for this is an example of this flagrant bullshit someone else DMed me recommending I go to admins about, but we all know the admins are a group of Good Ole Boys who will do nothing but protect the mod. 🤦
So why is everyone putting up with this? Did we not leave Reddit to get away from power tripping scumbags? Do people not want a community ruled by the consent of its people? People were flagging shit based on bad faith arguing which last I checked falls under that sub’s first rule.
Oh, but telling a mod “no” is unacceptable. 🤦
We all need to come together and create an actual democratic platform because this is blatant authoritarianism and is not acceptable.
Oh, icing on the cake:
Just gonna lock this post for now, don’t want to start some kind of fight in a community that is not meant for stuff like that.
If anyone has anything to add to this, you can contact me or mail us at [email protected]. Thank you.
Maybe you should’ve waited to see this democracy of yours in action and you’d see there are currently 16 downvotes vs 5 upvotes on those comments.
You should check out Nostr.
If that’s a place where we don’t get to see his posts, I agree.
Edit: LOL it’s a crypto grift. I’m sure he’ll feel right at home there. Please go there OP!
Checking back in, I must give op props for the success of this troll thread. Impressive work.
If anyone was ever wondering, this is what decent quality trolling looks like. I didn’t think it was going to take off like this, but apparently I was wrong.
It’s useful to remember that we are on the internet, and the internet is full of bullshit. There is nothing saying that op actually believes a single thing they have said, and isn’t just screwing around to have a good time at other people’s expense.
That’s because Lemmy is an unmoderated shithole.
Any decent mod team would have nuked this thread hours ago.
Hahaha OP is such a salty lil’ loser.
This is fucking hillarious, and they even called the admins to come delete the mod.
Fuck thanks for the laugh mate.
Hey OP, how come all your posts get upvoted in large ~5 minute intervals all by the same few accounts? Sure looks like someone is logging into multiple other accounts to upvote themselves because they’re getting ratio’d so hard.
And I just checked a few of those accounts, the four I looked at all stopped posting exactly 5 months ago.🤔
If anything, that mod showed incredible restraint. Why are you expecting socratic debates in a shitposting community anyway?
Oh oops, F, hold on
I wasn’t the one reporting bad faith arguing, other people were. He was the one complaining about it. I just called him out on it.
You understand mods can’t just do whatever they want, right? You know we live in a democracy where rule is granted by the consent of a community’s people, whose interests and edicts he has an obligation to enforce and not his own?
Or did we become okay with being ruled by tyrants all of a sudden?
If so, what’s the point of federation?
Or did we become okay with being ruled by tyrants all of a sudden?
If so, what’s the point of federation?
The point of federation is not to prevent tyrants.
The point is the option to exclude or include any instance due to whatever metric you want.
If you don’t like tyrants, you can defederate your instance from any tyrant-ruled instance.
And, obviously, you can run your own instance as tyrannical or democratic as you want - users who don’t like that are free to leave, instance-owners who don’t like that are free to defecate from you.
If you’re just a user on the relevant instance, all you can do ist petition the people who have that power.
I understand that’s basically what you’re trying to do, but your argument shouldn’t be about federation or lemmy’s inherent structure - the question should be “is anyone else annoyed by that behavior?”
to defecate from you
???
You heard them, now get squatting!
The point of federation is you can make your own competing community on your own or another server, people can “vote” by following you or not.
Also, Lemmy is not a democracy, there are no laws in any server’s home nation that make it a democracy. He has no obligation to treat it like a democracy. You can project your ideals all you like but if you want to be an autocrat that enforces democracy you’re going to have to learn how hosting works.
Which is obviously not realistic since other people were complaining and this is still happening. The only reason I bothered to make a thread about the matter was because someone DMed me suggesting I escalate it to the admins and I knew that wouldn’t work.
Yes, Lemmy is a democracy. It’s a federated social media platform. We come here for we the people to NOT be lorded over by fucking idiots.
You might be okay with it, but that doesn’t mean other people are, and the “You don’t like it? Leave” method of expressing discontent doesn’t work because we want to change the communities WE already established by participating in, not be forced out of one we have a right to participate in – and the others do have a right to participate in the community whether you agree or not.
We have rights. People have rights.
Since you seem very interested in good faith arguments: Please cite me the law that reserves you rights from random internet forum moderators. I cannot prove a negative.
Also, if this place were a democracy, judging by the upvote/downvote ratios in this thread, it seems you’ve been voted off the island. Perhaps you should consider yourself lucky this is an autocracy.
The votes look pretty even to me. And your count isn’t looking so great there, hoss.
And yes, this is obviously a democracy and a free community. Mods and admins can’t just do what they want. People have expectations for a free and fair place to hang out they have to abide by, especially if they want to keep users.
If you were someone considering switching over from Reddit and you saw this thread, you wouldn’t want to join regardless of how you personally felt about me.
You are being irrational about this and you know it.
You understand mods can’t just do whatever they want, right?
Yes, actually… They can. As long as they comply with the rules of the instance they are on, (and keep in mind each instance is also subject to be ran however the admin who creates it wants) they can do whatever they so please with their communities…
This isn’t a country. This is not a public space. It is a collection of private businesses (for lack of a better word) all doing their own thing.
Welcome to the Internet.
You’re mad that someone made a joke on a shitpost and didn’t understand it was a joke, and Flying Squid didn’t take action against them.
Jesus Christ.
No, I was mad a mod is allowed to threaten to ban other users for opposing him, but an admin at least claims he talked to him. Who knows if the admin actually did, though.
Why did you post this in BestOfLemmy?
Because I wanted it to be known a mod was acting like this and to force the admins to come out and do something about it. It seems to have worked.
Yea… though please don’t do that again. I will not remove this post (the local mods might) because it got so much traction, but next time I will.
Ohh, @[email protected], come heeeere, better come answer for you being a whiny petulant Trump wannabe spoiled brat
Ohh @[email protected] , come and explain why you’re letting mods of popular subs act like this
that is actually sad. find something else to do with your time.
Just reacting on behave of the admin team, let me investigate, and next time, we do have an email address which would be more appropriate to send complaints like these to.
So… what exactly are you alleging this mod is doing wrong? As far as I understand they asked someone to stop reporting stuff that wasn’t against the rules. You then told them they where selfish, lazy and unwilling to do their job and that they should step down. That seems a violation of rule 1, or am I interpreting it wrongly?
They were ignoring reports of other people violating rule 1 and then abusing their power to silence criticism. They threatened another user who did the same thing:
Which particular comments are you talking about? I thought the discussion was about bad faith arguments, not lack of respect?
Read the whole-ass thread and the screenshots, my man. He was doing that to other people, not just myself, which is the reason why I made the thread.
It’s obvious you don’t care about me, but you have a LARGE obligation to care about your other users and to not allow mods to abuse their power and lord over innocent people. This bullshit is NOT why we came to Lemmy.
I did read the whole-ass thread, but I don’t see any reference to comments that should have been deleted because of rule 1. The rules of that community do not have rules against bad-faith arguments. Maybe it should, but it is shitposting after all. I don’t really see the issue.
And I do care about your feeling about the modding, otherwise I wouldn’t really be having this conversation, now would I?
Bad faith arguing obviously IS a violation of Rule 1 and one his own users accept given that’s apparently what people were reporting others for, and it’s the commonly accepted definition of the term anyway.
Calling out a mod obviously can’t be a violation of Rule 1 because it leads to abuses like this. It’s not about me. It’s about the other guys he was threatening, and using me as an emotional cudgel to bully the other users into compliance.
If that’s what you think acceptable moderation is on your platform, you ought to step down, too. You can prove me right by banning me for saying that, or you can preserve the integrity of your platform by actually doing something about him. Your choice.
Don’t get too worried about OP. “To a hammer everything is a nail.”
I already thought the entire post was in pretty bad taste, but this is just beyond the pale.
What the actual fuck? Grow up, you child.
That’s what I told the mod and all he did was prove me right.
No matter what the mod did, who do you think you are that you think you have the right to talk like that to two grown humans?
Because in the real world where adults pay bills, we’re allowed to stand up to other people. Especially those who think they can pretend to be authority figures and abuse power to silence anyone who tells them no.
#SorryNotSorry this is a free society. We’re allowed to criticize people in power. We’re allowed to speak our minds, which he himself claims is apparently acceptable despite rule 1 of his own sub – but of course that rule only means what he wants it to mean and when it’s convenient to him, and you’ll just accept it.
Oh are you paying the bills here?
Are you hosting your own instance with blackjack and hookers and then moderating and federating and defederating appropriate instances?
No? You’re just another free user? Who feels like they get to denigrate people?
Ok
We all pay bills in the real world, my friend, and we accept the principles of democracy so we CAN pay bills and not be lorded over by dipshit wannabe tinpot tyrants.
But we both know you just don’t want to admit you’re wrong about this. I’m sure the other guy who was threatened to be banned for speaking out as well thinks that’s a perfectly okay way to accept users.
Actually .world requires user donations to function anyway so your point is DOUBLY moot
Have you personally donated?
Weird hill to die on in the context of a shitposting forum.
The only reason I made the thread was because other people were being stomped on by that dipshit Pol Pot wannabe of a mod.
The perfect response when you think someone is swinging their dick is to swing yours harder.
I swear people who whine about how bad this platform are is the one that created the most drama.
Good luck to my sea animal friend for dealing with this sort of thing o7
What is o7 I thought it was a typo but I keep seeing it
It’s a salute.
Well, username checks out, at least.
You really should not try to roast people when you are SO BAD AT IT.
I thought crabs are boiled. Also I wasn’t trying to insult him.