• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    3·
    1 day ago

    I’ve studied economics and poli sci academically, have degrees in both, did my own independent research, came to the conclusion that the anarchist perspective is ultimately the most useful approach to analyze and critique… all societies, throughout all history, with the least ideological blindspots, with the most at least broadly accurate predictive power.

    But sure, ok, I am one of the liberals whom I frequently argued against and critqued, ok.

    Anyways, do you have an actual retort, or just a form of ideologically flavored ad hominem?

    -yawn-

    • whiskers165 [she/her, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      332·
      1 day ago

      My wife also has advanced degrees in economics, she’s a senior economist professionally and has also studied world history indepth. She disagrees with your assessment and thinks a vanguard and a socialist state are necessary intermediaries to get any kind of lasting libertarian anarchism.

      I could easily find 100+ economists with better credentials who disagree with both you and my wife so what’s the point of jerking off your qualifications? If you have something persuasive to say just say it; vaguely telling us why you’re qualified is weak as hell. Why don’t you post your resume or link to any of the books you’ve published if you’re such an expert?

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        4·
        1 day ago

        Your wife sounds like she’d be potentially interesting to talk to then, genuinely.

        But uh, I wasn’t ‘flashing my credentials’ to assert authority by way of the number of fancy pieces of paper I have.

        I was responding to the charge of having been ‘brainwashed’ by the US government, and mentioned my academic pursuits to hopefully be able to indicate that I have spent an inordinate and uncommon amount of time and effort attempting to do my own research and learn more.

        …

        I don’t have anything that I think would be persuasive to say, in general, to an ML Vanguardist.

        Mostly because they tend to be very, very ideologically inflexible.

        Again, I was responding to a single general concept with that section of what I wrote:

        The idea that an ML/Tankie does not understand why Anarchists are skeptical of left-unity.

        Apparently my error was to assume that the person I was responding to was… being serious, actually expressing that idea in good faith, earnestly.

        …

        I will not be posting my resume or any PII as I value my privacy here on lemmy.

        …

        You’re so very hostile and demanding of people you claim are or should be your allies…

        …almost as if we have a fundamentally, radically distinct approach to basic human to human communication, to say nothing of how to grow a mass political movement.

    • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]@hexbear.netBanned from community
      271·
      1 day ago

      So just to be clear, you’re the only free thinker and everyone who doesn’t agree with you is a mindless sheep blindly following their ideology as a religion?

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        51·
        1 day ago

        Am I the only free thinker?

        No, of course not?

        Do all tankie/MLs engage in what could otherwise be an actually productive and insightful conversation with the absolutely most badfaith and toxic rhetoric that is humanly possible, immedeately, right out of the gate, like rabid cult members defending their beliefs?

        In my experience, not 100% of the time, but 95% of the time, yes.

        So I guess thanks to you that 95% is getting closer to rounding over to 96%.

        You got anything other than an ad hom?

    • TheLepidopterists [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      271·
      1 day ago

      just a form of ideologically flavored ad hominem?

      Ridiculous statement for someone who incessantly calls the most predominant socialist tendency on earth a “religion.”

      Edit: also lmao poli sci and economics degree

      “Excuse me, the only real socialists are people with professional level liberal ideological education”

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        1 day ago

        You claimed I was brainwashed by the government, I told you I wasn’t.

        Your response is ‘Ridiculous!’ and then a strawman.

        … this is evidently your strategy for fostering left-unity, to just attempt to rhetorically insult me until I submit to your way of thinking?

        You ‘argue’ like a power tripping narcissist sociopath, it is actually funny to me that you seemingly lack awareness of how vindictive and manipulative you come across.

        I guess the only good revolution is the one that is openly antagonistic to tbose whom it claims to represent, speak for, advocate for with unity.

        • TheLepidopterists [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          222·
          1 day ago

          I’m not trying to foster left unity with you, because frankly to consider you an anarchist would be such rank anti-anarchist sectarianism that Hexbear mods would be correct to permaban me. You’re a liberal.

          Btw, I think that accusing anarcho-communists of having an ideology that inevitably leads to ecocide is pretty sectarian also (or again, maybe not sectarian. It’s not sectarian for a liberal [you] to be anti-anarchist, just shitty), and you haven’t engaged with this point but you’re posting ziq’s articles and this is one of their states positions so that’s something you need to deal with for yourself.

          You called Marxism a religion before my comment, which was about your initial ad hominem comparison to religion, and frankly suggesting that the ideologies that you are opposed to are the ones the US government wants you to oppose is an objective fact.