• rsuri@lemmy.world
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        If it was a dude it would be like William Hung, everyone would still laugh at him but would also be kinda rooting for him. People are right to laugh at Raygun, but the conspiracies about her getting ahead because of her husband have a sexist vibe to them.

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        You know fine rightly people wouldn’t be making a big deal of this or ignoring the reasons behind this if it was a man.

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      I don’t. A lot of people make a huge mental, physical and economical effort to be there and she just thinks it’s playtime? She didn’t make fool of only herself but of all the professional that fought for break to be in the olympics. She an idiot

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        She would have known what the impact would’ve been, she literally studied the sport. She must have seen many female Australian breakers who were leagues above her in terms of skill. Yet she thought she was worthy to represent her country, hate is a strong word, but she and the org that put her there should be heavily criticised.

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        I think what the snooty professional athletes and organisers need to remember is that the general public don’t really care who is the fastest woman to run 250m through mud while wearing a rucksack. You can dedicate your whole life that and for the majority of us it doesn’t matter a jot.

        But somebody falls on their face or nearly drowns in the pool, and people will see that because it’s more newsworthy than “man jumps 1cm further than other man”.

        Eddie the Eagle. The Jamaican Bobsled team. Eric the Eel. These are the names that stick in the memory. We’ll only remember winners if they win a ton of medals, like Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps or Simone Biles.

        Who even won the women’s Breaking gold medal? I’d have to look it up if I wanted to know. But we know who Raygun is for better or worse. So who’s the real winner here?

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          A Japanese woman, Ami maybe, won the gold. I really liked the Lithuanian kid who came in second, she was fun to watch. And I liked the girl from the Netherlands who came in 4th. Bronze went to China’s 671, but her dancing struck me as a power performance more than an art or a form of play.

          I didn’t see Raygun till now because I only watched finals. Just didn’t have the time to watch it all. Stupid music licencing rules causing things to disappear.

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            刘清漪, sounds similar to 671 if you say both in Chinese. Just in case anyone thought China was referring to their athletes by number.

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              The B girls went on by their own street names, 671 was the dancers chosen moniker. She was the first athlete to complete without an alphabetical name, I think I heard? The other Chinese dancer in finals went by a name.

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        I mean, I get what you’re going at, but she does hold a PhD in cultural studies, and she did put in a lot of effort to get in. It’s very possible, too, that, in an arena so different than what she’s used to, she choked. A lot of the hate goes above and beyond with death threats and claims she should kill herself, and nobody deserves that.

        For how goofy it was, and the memes that have come from it, she’s earned my respect and thanks for bringing a little, albeit unintentional, joy to my life.

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          look i get it, but i coul get a PHD in other sport, lets say soccer, and lnow everything about it but also know I am not good enough to play. Academics and Olympics are different. Can you imagine being a serious and talented Australian break dancer and having to watch that?! Death treats are ridiculous and as a normal person of couse I don’t think that’s right. But I think she did know she wasn’t good enough but wanted to go for the novelty regardless of other athletes that were better.

          She knew what she was doing and did it anyway and that’s a shitty move from a shitty person

          sorry for the typos im in a moving train in my phone lol

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            She beat those other break dancers at comps to get nominated. She didn’t get selected out of no where.

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                He should have recused himself from judging a comp his wife was in but there is no definitive proof he displayed favouritism.

                She failed to score when she actually tried, and you can see the difference in those attempts, and then did something completely different that we’re talking about.

                Honestly her performance and the French pole vaulter’s… pole are the only things notable about this years Olympics.

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      Nah, some of the background on this I saw had her husband being on the selection committee and forcing the committee to choose her.

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        (Rumors that Raygun’s husband was on the Olympic breaking selection committee have ultimately been dispelled by the Australian Breaking Committee, and historically, Raygun ranked first or second on Australia’s list of nationally-ranked B-girls from 2020 to 2023. The official Olympics site also has a detailed description of the rigorous process of qualifying to compete in the sport at the Olympics.)

        From the link in @[email protected] ’s comment on this post

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        Ugh, that sucks.

        I saw an interview with her yesterday where she said she gave it her best after a lot of work and was pretty upset about all the hate.

        I guess I need to do some more research!

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          Ugh, that sucks.

          It’s also complete bullshit, see the other comments on this post.

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          Odd that they interviewed a breakdancer/breakdancing-teacher and then apparently just some random African American who happened to be within arms reach? That’s the only qualifications they give him. “Malik Dixon is an African American who has been living in Australia for more than a decade and is a Sydney University graduate.”

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            That’s just your typical reverse racism. Hey, let’s ask that black dude over there, they’re all experts on breakdance, right Tanner?

            Plus he might have something to do with sports, so he is an expert alright.

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              The wording sounds like he’s a black man from America, aka an African American, who’s now living in Australia. I have no idea though. There is a way it’s not the wrong wording, but it also totally could be.

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    Ok now that I’ve finally seen it:

    It’s funny af but she’s not as terrible as I was led to believe. I mean that’s not breakdancing but she’s at least got fitness, coordination, and balance, but she ISN’T DOING ANYTHING WITH IT!

    Like a good dancer that has never heard of pop and lock but had it described to them by a drunk Danish couple.

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    I looked for this video for over a week. For something so widely discussed it’s crazy nobody could actually see it.

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    I’m so tired of hearing about this…

    The thing is, at least she gave it a shot even if it was stupid and she sucks at it. She’ll be the most popular person at the pub.I actually wish I had that opportunity even if the Internet laughed at me honestly

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      I guess the story is that she’s actually really talented, but she decided she wasn’t up to the level of the competition so she opted for a less technical, more expressive routine.

      Or at least that’s what my research turned up after watching that.

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        I’m not buying that. Her moves were slow and awkward, not “less technical.” She had zero relationship with the music. She spent most of her time flopping like a fish. Slowly. I feel like she got lost while looking for the interpretive dance competition.

        Wanna spread misinform real fast? Tell people she was a meme candidate chosen for her legendary super bowl performance as left shark. That’s more believable than “she can actually breakdance.”

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          It’s genuinely not. Her PhD is in the cultural politics of breakdancing. That’s exactly what the other person said but less concise.

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            And I could have a PhD in Cinema but it doesn’t mean I’ll be a good director. That’s not the point of the degree.

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          Her PhD is in investigating the cultural/social context and implications of women in breakdancing. It’s not PhD in performing breakdancing.

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      Nothing she did was heroic. She stole someone else’s dream for her own entitlement. Grow up.

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      I mean, I get the love, but part of me feels bad knowing there were people in Australia with real skill that night have had a chance and she kinda robbed them. If I was a skilled break dancer in her country and saw that I don’t think I would feel great about it.