• Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
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    Conservatism was a reaction to revolutionary politics, it did not proceed it. Even the name makes it clear that it is a response to action.

    Leftism is inherently revolutionary, and conservatism was a response to that.

    But back to my original question: why do you think @neuromancer denies that fascists and conservatives make natural allies?

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      @Zombiepirate

      On the contrary, conservatives were always here. We just had to take a name after Leftism so people did not think we supported the “new way.”

      I don’t think conservatives and fascists make natural allies. Conservatives and conservatives make natural allies. You cannot trust the radical big state people.

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        But conservatives want a big state too, they just claim otherwise. Look how they push rhetoric like “back the blue,” are for abortion restrictions, and want to fund the military above and beyond what it even asks for. Their policies push a soft ethno-state, as far as they think they can get away with.

        Again, it’s a meaningless distinction.

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          @Zombiepirate

          Saying “conservatives” is often difficult because conservatism is a big tent of realists to varying degrees.

          Evangelical Christians certainly care about abortion a lot. The Social Darwinists want it cheap, legal, and easily accessed however.

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            Well @neuromancer clearly doesn’t take issue with your ethnostate garbage, so he obviously thinks you’re allies.

            That’s the “big tent” you’re taking about, yes?

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              @Zombiepirate

              Lots of people realize that a mono-ethnic society is a necessary but not sufficient condition for survival, even some Leftists.

              I cannot speak for the opinions of others.