”Give him a follow, he’s going to go far.”

  • PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    2 days ago

    Four years ago, you say?

    Okay it wasn’t his campaign, he and I were both working on a campaign for someone else. Still, absolutely bizarre feeling that I’ve sat and had a real, normal human conversation with the guy who’s likely to be the next mayor of NYC.

      • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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        2 days ago

        He’s hiding them. His mayoral campaign specifically was not possible without real materialist analysis. We are living in an affordability crisis. You win by offering actual improving material conditions to the working class. We had a long chat about this

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          2 days ago

          The takeaway for American Hexbear might be that in order to do something meaningful you might need to get on stage and firmly declare that “I am your DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST candidate for [x]” like Zohran did. It’s the proper materialist analystis (“socialism with burger characteristics” lol)

          It’s cracking me up to think about our users trying to do it but kinda throwing up in their mouths a little when they say the line. Or doing :lenin-shining: on the debate stage, and holding a “UNLIMITED GENOCIDE ON THE FIRST WORLD” deep in their chest while some ghoul is yapping at them. The tells would be so obvious to us watching haha, luckily it seems like Zohran is a true professional about it and maybe not as online-poisoned?

          • MizuTama [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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            15 hours ago

            Bro I’ve already seen at least one comment somewhere hear calling us Dengist revisionists, if SSB becomes a thing the infighting online will be hilarious

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                  15 hours ago

                  Haha ok that’s what I thought

                  And honestly Zohran is just about exactly what I expect socialism to look like in the imperial core at its best. The true revolution will happen in the periphery (eyes on West Africa at the moment), but if westerners can do a genuine Democratic Socialism, they can assist comrades at the periphery by directing resources inward instead of toward the military and such, and even where unsuccessful at that, they create internal strife which also inhibits the empire’s ability to operate in opposition to the more substantial revolutions.

                  The US will probably be the last place to actually get Workers’ control over the means of production, dragged to heel by the rest of the world who moved on a decade or two before.

                  Hope I’m wrong though! Looking forward to the struggle sessions as Zohran does stuff and other US cities oust their democratic establishment!

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                    15 hours ago

                    Yeah, I’m not expecting this to lead to much personally and I definitely feel the turn off for Israel right to exist maneuvering, but I also feel like things have been oddly aggressive in comparison to the grace China is given for similar waffling about with words as realpolitik instead of moral compromise. Suddenly swathes of people are finding themselves Maoists that I either didn’t see before somehow or decided this was a step too far.