• usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    The headline is a little misleading, she said “at least $15” not that she wants it necessarily at exactly $15/hr and no more

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      1 day ago

      Either way it’s still another bullshit lie to lead people to the polls. The day after the election it will never be brought up again

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        At least it’s a bullshit lie that appeals to the left, I’ve been getting tired of the Democrats’ campaign strategy of “we need to move further right.”

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          They are saying shit like this because they see they are bleeding the left leaning vote. They will still keep going to the right.

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            “The left doesn’t like our party.”

            “Let’s go more conservative to appeal to voters who are probably ok with voting for the more fascistic candidate.”

            “We’re losing support among leftists, better double down on being conservative.”

            The Democrats lose the election.

            “Why would the Left do this?”

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              18 hours ago

              “Clearly we didn’t move far enough to the right. The left are unreliable voters who don’t appreciate everything we do for the right.”

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        Except Democrats did try to pass $15 after the last election. It didn’t work and a bunch of the worst ones defected, but it wasn’t just quietly forgotten.

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            Then they had a vote and failed to pass it. But they didn’t just quietly ignore the campaign.

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              18 hours ago

              Sanders led the group that called for the vote. As centrists are so delighted to point out when it’s convenient to them, Sanders is not a Democrat.

              If it were up to Democrats, they would have thrown up their hands and gleefully announced that there was nothing they could do. Sanders is the reason you can pretend that Democrats don’t hate workers.

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                12 hours ago

                Oh please. This started as a simple false statement and now you’re moving the goalposts for them. The Democrats didn’t just propose $15 and “the day after the election it [was] never brought up again”. They tried, maybe they could have tried more, but that they weren’t even close to 50 suggests any path was a failure. They did have 40-something Democrats though, aka the vast majority of the party. That there are shitty Democrats isn’t a revelation.

                And this idea that Sanders isn’t a Democrat in any meaningful way is fun trivia, not something a person who is attempting to engage in meaningful conversation about politics takes seriously. He caucuses with them, wins the Democratic primary in his state, competes to lead the party, and supports Democratic nominees even when they’re from the other end of the party. The centrists are disingenuous idiots but so are the leftists who do the exact same thing. Sanders likes the aesthetic of “independent”, good for him, he’s still on team (D) and not remotely the only good senator on it.