Architect of the greatest war crime in the 21st century but hey, welcome to the resistance!
I would say he’s a solid #2 in that regard behind Kissinger
21st century?
lol oops, reading is hard.
Enemy of my enemy is my friend. For now.
It’s like an alien invasion happening. Except a complete fascist takeover. And not even the Cheney’s are willing to go that far.
Once this is over, if the good guys win, we can all go back to hating each other.
Oh he’s willing to go with that far there’s just not enough in it for him.
They’re all my enemies though
With you. But we’ve got to prioritize one enemy at a time so we’re not waging war on multiple fronts.
Let’s take down orange Mussolini together first, then we can take down the republicans that allowed this to happen, and the ones that committed war crimes.
We’ll never get to where you think this will get you. I won’t make common cause with genocidaires.
Rare to see someone on an ML domain speak out against Stalin and more modern genociders like Xi. I’m with ya, but you should know, your instances admins like to ban for such things. Be careful.
So clever!
It’s all about results. That said…
Its stupid. Energize the fucking progressives. There are far more progressives than there are conservatives. There might even be more progressives than there are moderates.
Energize the fucking progressives.
Yes. She could be capitalizing on popular progressive ideas, like healthcare or lowering grocery prices. These ideas have traction with groups beyond just leftists. She could have run an Obama style campaign, rather than be Biden 2.0. Instead we get Cheneys and “opportunity economy” for small business owners.
There are far more progressives than there are conservatives.
Doubt. Gallup has 48% of Americans identifying has Republican or Republican leaning. Unless you’re telling me that self identifying Republicans are not conservative, but are in fact made up of mostly “moderates” or secret progressives, I don’t know how else you came to this conclusion.
There might even be more progressives than there are moderates.
Also doubt. Where’s the data on this?
Here’s some data. Republican voters hate the Democratic Party, but they can be surprisingly supportive of progressive policies. After all, those policies would improve the lives of all Americans.
https://www.citizen.org/news/progressive-policies-are-popular-policies/ 2019
Found some better data than just R v. D.
In 2023 Pew has 33% of Republicans identifying as conservative and 25% of Democrats identifying as moderate or conservative, so Americans are somewhere between 33% and 58% conservative. Conversely, Americans are somewhere between 23% and 37% liberal.
I think you’ve vastly underestimated the number of conservative Americans.
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At this point, I’ve started assuming all of these polls are bullshit.
Rational people understand it’s an emergency, and we need to have the biggest tent with the most people in it.
Who is the Dick Cheney/Liz Cheney constituency though? Whose opinion will be swayed by the former VP of a deeply unpopular administration at its end? Or by a former Congresswoman with a infamous last name?
This is a nice-to-have for Democrats, but is it actually moving the needle with voters? Is it actually changing minds or increasing turnout? Harris and her advisors certainly think so, she’s out there campaigning with Cheney actively, but where is the movement in the numbers, cause I’m not seeing it.
we need to have the biggest tent with the most people in it.
Which is why we’re gonna completely ignore the sizeable uncommitted movement and probably the entire state of Michigan.
Just not big enough for the left, naturally.
In other words: Yes, Stalin is a murderous dickbag who won’t let us use his territory to bomb Japan and steals every piece of technology we send him but we need him to beat Hitler.
forging that relationship at the time was helpful and a clear benefit and, unlike then, the poll numbers are making it clear that campaigning with support from war criminals is not helpful.
Yea I feel the same way. People not taking it seriously enough think they have the power to get something by not voting for Harris or Trump beyond an ego boost. So many folks today think they have morals and not voting because they think Dick Cheney is somehow going to suffer for a Trump win is beyond me. For example, Hasan. He is safe in his state of California because HE KNOWS that CA is FPTP and Harris will win CA so he writes in Bernie because his vote has no power. But trying to pretend its a moral stance is a joke and cowardice.
Exactly. As long as they dump them as soon as they win. The thought of having a Cheney in the Harris cabinet is unacceptable.
If she wins, there will suddenly be a ton of “former” MAGA that are suddenly “center-right” and ready to cooperate.
Remember when Obama tried that?
The thought of having a Cheney in the Harris cabinet is unacceptable.
that’s who kamala was alluding to when she said she could have republicans in her administration.
I’m aware
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