• RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world
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          8 days ago

          My dude, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. That’s me in fact.

          Even if I had a contract it wouldn’t matter as I live in a right to work state, they can fire me at any point without warning or cause.

          Having any real employment contract is NOT the norm here.

          Non office jobs are more likely to be unionized and this have a contract than office jobs.

          That’s the type of thing non W2 self employed contractors or union members might have to lean back on, not rank and file full time office employees.

            • abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us
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              5 days ago

              Coming from someone who successfully did exactly that - because it’s quite tough. Immigration to most countries is quite competitive and expensive, with a lot of hoops to jump through. Those who can do it typically are much better off than the average Tommy and Gina (edit: Bon Jovi for those downvoters who don’t get the reference).

            • RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world
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              7 days ago

              To where?

              Somewhere with a substantial pay reduction that does NOT want me there and likely requires I learn a new language in midlife.

              I’m fine, it’s not a hellscape here, there are problems everywhere.

          • cheesepotatoes@lemmy.world
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            7 days ago

            Lol I don’t understand. So when you get hired somewhere, you just shake hands and go to a desk and start working? You don’t sign any employment contract outlining role responsibilities, compensation, NDA, expectations, background check, bank deposit information, tax information, etc?

            I don’t believe you.

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              6 days ago

              You get an offer letter that spells some of that out, but it isn’t a binding contract.

              An employment relationship in the United States is presumed to be “at-will,” i.e., terminable by either party, with or without cause or notice. Indeed, a majority of employees in the United States are employed on an “at-will” basis, without a written employment contract, and only with a written offer of employment that outlines the basic terms and conditions of their employment.

              Source

            • RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world
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              7 days ago

              Title, start date and time, job title is about all that’s on the “contract”.

              Rolls and responsabilities, not anything else, are not defined.

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        6 days ago

        I’m an American and I’ve always had a contract. Even in retail. Of course the contracts are all bullshit and just a waiver of my rights.

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        8 days ago

        Land of the free and all that. Free from paid healthcare, a decent public education, a strong voice in government, an impartial justice system, employee rights… With all this freedom, it’s hard to imagine wanting to be anywhere else.

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        8 days ago

        So if the employer suddenly decides to e.g. start paying you less, how do you prove how much your pay should be?

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          6 days ago

          There is nearly always a contract and the business will submit tax paperwork with your compensation to the IRS.

          Under the table workers are illegal and on their own

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          7 days ago

          Someone does some digging and figures it out, and maybe five or so years later you get a check in the mail for an amount the lawyers agreed was correct.

        • Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          8 days ago

          Previous pay stubs I suppose. Depending on the employer you may have something in writing. This typically wouldn’t be contract if you’re an employee without a union.