Gosh but I heard that all genocide is equal and Biden is literally the devil. Do you mean that having a meaningful impact on whether Palestinians live or die was worth swallowing my pride and voting for Harris? But isn’t my ideal that no Palestinian should die more important than actually saving the lives of Palestinians?
/s I absolutely can’t fucking stand people who were unable to realize that less harm would, in fact, be less harmful.
Or they are just quiet because they realize they’ve placed Gaza into the hands of Netanyahu’s allies in the US and there’s literally no way to defend this outcome.
“They” didn’t. All of America did. I still don’t understand how anyone thinks Gaza had anything with Harris’s loss. I very much doubt the 10 million non/protest voters all didn’t vote for Harris because of Gaza, or that there are even 10 million people in the US that care about Gaza enough to accept another Trump term.
The escalations we’re going to see over the coming months were going to happen with a Republican as President or Democrat. The past 13 months has shown Israel can get away with virtually whatever they want. They were never intending on stopping regardless of the outcome of the election.
Nah, they’re clamoring for Biden to hurry up and stop shipment of arms to Israel and get the ceasefire some before Trump gets into office. Too little to late guys, Israel won’t care, won’t do shit now that they know trump won.
You just keep thinking that both sides are bad even when one party, despite its flaws, tried to push for peace and the other side publicly expressed genocide is the preferred solution.
Good luck on the upcoming year in affecting change!
The Democratic Party preferred to lose to a fascist over taking the election seriously and pushing for peace. Biden, who is a Christian Zionist, continues to send billions worth of weapons unconditionally, nothing about withholding military weapons to reign Israel in to a permanent ceasefire. Harris didn’t break from Biden on policy at all, ran on unwaivering support for Israel, ignored Palestinian victims and all the Americans that has directly affected, and campaigned instead on the most lethal Military in the world with Liz Cheney. It would’ve taken more policy changes than just on Israel to win the popular vote, but just that one policy change would’ve made them far more likely to win the swing states and electorial college
That and Israel doesn’t NEED our weapons to keep doing what they’re doing, they never have.
Uh… Seriously look up what political scientists have to say about this. Israel uses too much, well, everything compared to what they can produce themselves.
Cutting them off only makes them weaker should they be attacked by Iran
And how is that a bad thing? Israel wouldn’t be able to do this shit if the US wasn’t protecting it from its neighbors.
Except what happens then is the radical pro-Israel lobby then attacks anyone and everyone involved in that decision, actively making things worse here.
I mean what’s there to say? Yeah we know Trump fucking sucks what do you want them to do? There’s barely anything to say when he hasn’t done anything ywt.
Donvict is in the pocket of the magaforbrainz that think Jews have to be in Israel to bring about the sick fantasy from their book club. Even if he doesn’t actually believe in xtianity at all…
All the people who were screeching to abandon Harris because of Gaza seem awfully quiet now
Gosh but I heard that all genocide is equal and Biden is literally the devil. Do you mean that having a meaningful impact on whether Palestinians live or die was worth swallowing my pride and voting for Harris? But isn’t my ideal that no Palestinian should die more important than actually saving the lives of Palestinians?
/s I absolutely can’t fucking stand people who were unable to realize that less harm would, in fact, be less harmful.
You say “unable to realize”, I say “intentionally pushed a false narrative to increase voter apathy”.
Especially since many of them refused to engage any discussion on how much worse Trump would be.
It’s a combination of both. Lots of useful idiots. Just see that thing AOC did to find out why people would split the vote with her and Trump.
People in this country are straight up dangerously stupid.
I have a feeling a lot of them were not American. The bot farms are quiet now because they got what they wanted.
Too bad the actual fascist Americans who elected Trump are still with you. It’s always someone else’s fault not America’s.
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“They” didn’t. All of America did. I still don’t understand how anyone thinks Gaza had anything with Harris’s loss. I very much doubt the 10 million non/protest voters all didn’t vote for Harris because of Gaza, or that there are even 10 million people in the US that care about Gaza enough to accept another Trump term.
Not attempting to assign blame. But we all have to live with the reality of our choices now.
You don’t remember this guy?
I hope that makes you feel better when Rubio gives up all pretense of even wanting a ceasefire.
Well it’s not like Biden/Harris actually tried for a ceasefire. There’s really not much change other than the quiet part being said out loud.
Not much change yet… like I said in another thread, let’s just save this comment and revisit it in 2025, shall we?
The escalations we’re going to see over the coming months were going to happen with a Republican as President or Democrat. The past 13 months has shown Israel can get away with virtually whatever they want. They were never intending on stopping regardless of the outcome of the election.
Keep telling yourself that. It might help you sleep at night.
What in the past 13 months that has happened makes you believe the Democrats were holding the Israelis back?
Yeah that cease fire Biden negotiated was way better!
Oh, wait.
Don’t try to pop their cope bubble.
All the russian trolls? They’ve moved on. The America job is completed.
For those uninformed link to that R site
Are they? I see the comments still full of them.
Nah, they’re clamoring for Biden to hurry up and stop shipment of arms to Israel and get the ceasefire some before Trump gets into office. Too little to late guys, Israel won’t care, won’t do shit now that they know trump won.
We’ve been clamoring for it since Biden first bypassed congress to directly send them weapons and money after October.
Israel has never cared so far and gotten away with everything, so nothing has changed there.
You just keep thinking that both sides are bad even when one party, despite its flaws, tried to push for peace and the other side publicly expressed genocide is the preferred solution.
Good luck on the upcoming year in affecting change!
The Democratic Party preferred to lose to a fascist over taking the election seriously and pushing for peace. Biden, who is a Christian Zionist, continues to send billions worth of weapons unconditionally, nothing about withholding military weapons to reign Israel in to a permanent ceasefire. Harris didn’t break from Biden on policy at all, ran on unwaivering support for Israel, ignored Palestinian victims and all the Americans that has directly affected, and campaigned instead on the most lethal Military in the world with Liz Cheney. It would’ve taken more policy changes than just on Israel to win the popular vote, but just that one policy change would’ve made them far more likely to win the swing states and electorial college
Imagine believing that genocide joe has been pushing for peace.
That and Israel doesn’t NEED our weapons to keep doing what they’re doing, they never have.
Cutting them off only makes them weaker should they be attacked by Iran and does nothing to stop the genocide.
Uh… Seriously look up what political scientists have to say about this. Israel uses too much, well, everything compared to what they can produce themselves.
And how is that a bad thing? Israel wouldn’t be able to do this shit if the US wasn’t protecting it from its neighbors.
Israel is, depending on who’s counting, between the 8th and 10th largest weapons dealer in the world
https://globelynews.com/world/world-top-arms-exporting-countries/amp/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/267131/market-share-of-the-leadings-exporters-of-conventional-weapons/
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-share-global-arms-exports-2022/
They don’t need our help executing a people they have spent decades marginalizing.
Okay, so if they need it, don’t provide it, don’t be complacent in genocide.
The lengths people will go to defend the US for Israel is insane.
Oh, we should have stopped providing aid to Israel decades ago, but that won’t stop the genocide.
That’s pretty much the best way to get them to stop, let them face repercussions. So you’ve already proven that point false.
Except what happens then is the radical pro-Israel lobby then attacks anyone and everyone involved in that decision, actively making things worse here.
See:
https://apnews.com/article/squad-aipac-progressives-congress-cori-bush-0de0a96929368db72145b033261415ca
That guy is already beating his wife, if I stop giving him hammers to do it with, that other guy that’s pissed off about it all might do something bad
Well maybe on opposite day.
I mean, it’s only happened a couple of times already…
https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3923123/us-assets-in-mediterranean-again-helped-defend-israel-against-iranian-missiles/
I mean what’s there to say? Yeah we know Trump fucking sucks what do you want them to do? There’s barely anything to say when he hasn’t done anything ywt.
He already said he’s giving Israel a blank cheque. Not sure how that’s “nothing”
Okay that’s fair I didn’t know that, but still the only thing that can be said about that is “Trump bad”, which we all already know.
It was all too predictable.
Donvict is in the pocket of the magaforbrainz that think Jews have to be in Israel to bring about the sick fantasy from their book club. Even if he doesn’t actually believe in xtianity at all…
Anticolonialist turned into a puff of smoke immediately after the election.
I’m pretty sure they were just banned. This place has become somewhat of a lib echo chamber.
Or they were a Russian bot.
The difference here isn’t in policy but in honesty.