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This is false and we know this from the pandemic.
Once you can’t agree on facts, you can’t be right retrospectively.
Millions of people died, if you google US yearly death rate you see a very obvious spike.
To me that is the smoking gun that the pandemic was in fact very deadly.
I haven’t been able to say I told you so to any anti vaxxer.
It’s not about logic, it’s about outrage, and that’s gonna increase moving forward.
It’s one thing knowing it’s going to happen, it’s going to be something else entirely when it does.
It’s like knowing you’re going to die. We all “know” our day is coming, but we don’t really appreciate that until we get old or someone close to us passes away.
What is this picture?
Looks like it’s from the set of Game of Thrones.
It’s been like that for the last 2 months.
Silver lining is that we’re looking at a clown-show fascist circus instead of an effective fascist takeover.
This might very well not (yet) be the “burning of the reichstag and declaration of the state of emergency” part of the fashist takeover. Trump is incompetent but if he does to much damage the government might just complety collapse and musk and zuck can enact a monarchy.
I am much more afraid of the people in the second row ready to take over than of trump himself.
Did you tell me that the dems would rather support a genocide than nominate a winning candidate? Cause I agree.
Or do you mean like how trump was supposed to be worse for palestinians than kamalacaust, but then dude got a ceasefire before even taking office? Because I never would’ve predicted that.
You do know that Trump did the exact opposite, right? He deliberately (and illegally, mind you) pressured Netanyahu not to accept any ceasefire deal until after the election, sacrificing thousands of innocent civilians to make sure he could campaign on the issue.
Wow, that would be a really big controversy in a normal world.
You do know Biden kept sending bombs to Israel which is the only reason the genocide was going on right?
To be fair, they would have gotten the bombs elsewhere. There’s no stopping a genocide when the international arms trade exists. Even if they had to buy US arms, another grey market partner would have filled the void…
Then it was incitement to commit genocide, which is a capital offense. You guys should have arrested him, you had a responsibility to the world.
The orange dude DIDN’T get a cease fire. Hamas and the Palestinians realized that what Biden had to offer is better than the extinction that Trump will support.
Hamas accepted that deal in June. Netanyahu refused it. Trump made Netanyahu accept it
You are consuming extreme Democrat propaganda if you think Hamas blocked the deal.
That’s so wrong. The palestinians were ready to accept a ceasefire MONTHs ago.
dude got a ceasefire before even taking office
Lol Trump was not responsible for the ceasefire. Read the news
Trump was 100% responsible for the ceasefire according to the news.
You’re telling me your guy could have done a ceasefire a year ago and he didn’t?
Jesus I hope he’s thrown in jail. What an evil person
your guy
Biden is not my guy, I hate the dude
Simultaneously ‘Trump did not get the ceasefire’ and also ‘Netanyahu intentionally waited until after Trump won to agree to a ceasefire’
How are those contradictions? Netanyahu openly favored a trump win and agreeing to a ceasefire before the election would have favored Biden. Trump isn’t even in office, Biden has been pushing for a ceasefire for months.
If they read the news, they wouldn’t post the stupid stuff they post.
🤔
“I told you so when I stayed home on voting day, didn’t oppose it, and blamed it on democrats while calling every leftist who isn’t just like me a fascist!”
-American leftists
no no. they called everyone a Nazi because they were supporting the genocide in Palestine.
everyday I’m on this platform I’m convinced that at least 70% of the content is generated by Russian and Chinese propagandists. because at the end of the day nobody can be this obtusely uneducated of the facts.
Dude I hadn’t smoked a cigarette for like 2yrs and then after election day… I’m smoking again.
Bro… Governments came and go. Don’t let that dictate your health. My aunt died of lung cancer with an o2 mask clamped to her mouth. It is the worst way to go. I’m rooting for you
This is why lefties shouldn’t run the country. Your whole game is fair weather optimized.
So your point is that we should have been preparing for the apocalypse a long time ago like you?
No my point is that if your addiction starts again because your non preferred candidate got elected, you have a character issue.
I didn’t like Biden as a President but I got consistently stronger and healthier during his term.
The part of my life that I’ve voted Republican corresponds to the part of my life I’ve taken the most realistic assessment of myself and my role in the world, and I see the two as connected.
You are being impolite and arrogant.
what???
Do you have a more specific question? Or is this just another opportunity to dunk for the room?
What the fuck are you even talking about lmfao get out of here
sidepoint, i love your name
Thanks it’s actually my legal name, I know there are some imitators out there but make no mistake I’m the original. Bizzle isn’t some half-rate streamer or Christian rapper; I’m a sci-fi enthusiast and weed farmer
As much as I enjoy saying “I told you so,” which is a LOT, I’m really goddamn tired of being proven right so fucking much.
The main issue, which I find with conservative voters a lot, is that unless they are obviously and directly impacted by something they will never notice or link actions and consequences.
And even if they are they will redirect it. Was inflation caused by trump printing $7 trillion dollars in one year while forgiving PPP loans made by wealthy businesses? No, it’s because Biden passed an infrastructure bill.
Or you can go back 1 step further. Was it caused by Trump firing the pandemic response team and allowing Covid to be the first domestic pandemic in a hundred years, and forcing a shutdown of almost all US business, forcing the Fed to drop interest rates to historic lows to stimulate the economy, and way overdoing that, allowing the wealthy to buy more assets for essentially nothing while the working class worried about if they would lose their jobs while the investor class bought more and more property driving housing inflation while supply chains worldwide were put on hold and then jump started causing everyone to raise price to make up for lost income and increased demand causing inflation in goods. Then with goods being so much more expensive and a ton of freshly printed money driving inflation, did people want to be paid more to continue to exist, driving wage inflation?
No, surely it was Joe Biden being nice to trans people that caused this. People are fucking stupid, and I’m not looking forward to the next 4 years.
Instead of I told you so I might just start saying
I’m really goddamn tired of being proven right so fucking much.
Okay you said whatever you wanted. Now what?
Is this how people think? “Haha I told ya it was gonna be shit! I was right and you were wrong!! So you deserve to feel guilty for all the suffering!”
C’mon guys. We’re better than this.
We’re better than this.
Uhh…
Ok maybe not
“And they were not.”
If I’m talking to someone who voted for it to happen, then yeah, that will be my attitude when it happens.
Yeah. Idk how I feel about this gotcha perspective when trans people and undocumented immigrants are facing state violence on a nearly existential level. Like, is this your response to that? To adopt this smug affect and do nothing? Business as usual for you, I suppose.
You’ll have to forgive me for taking this post very literally. I am very scared for what is going to happen to my friends and loved ones in the coming weeks.
options are limited but they are there.
- stay in the dangerzone, conveniently marked in red on the map
- move to a blue state that has a solid track record. if you’re willing, flood red counties and turn them blue/purple to help maintain stability of the state
- leave the country, how long before cheeto king claims a blue state administration broke “federal laws” and arrests them and replaces them with loyalists?
So
- Have money
- Have money
- Have money
Got it
Those 2 options both depend on having money to fund your escape. People unfortunately can’t just leave. Children can’t just leave.
Four years? In ten years from now, the elections of 2024 will be called the ‘Last Elections’ and President Musk will arrest people who will call for their return.
I’m expecting a total collapse before that happens.
One can only hope. Death to the genocidal empire
lovely, now Lemmy has accelerationists.
I’m not an accelerationist, I’m just not a citizen of the US and the faster the empire dies, the better for the rest of the world.
cool. you’re just poorly educated. Trump loves you.
not sure of the logic that got you to “US democracy dies == good for the world” but you do you.
you’re just poorly educated. Trump loves you
Why would I care what Trump loves? Again, not USian.
US hegemony dies = good for the world. The US is the most evil country om Earth. Supporting genocide, invading Iraq and Afghanistan and Korea and Vietnam and Nicaragua and Guatemala and an endless list of countries, engaging in imperialism and unequal exchange, literally born out of genocide and slavery. Can’t wait to see the US crash and burn tbh
US hegemony dies = good for the world. The US is the most evil country om Earth. Supporting genocide, invading Iraq and Afghanistan and Korea and Vietnam and Nicaragua and Guatemala and an endless list of countries, engaging in imperialism and unequal exchange, literally born out of genocide and slavery. Can’t wait to see the US crash and burn tbh
cool. I won’t dispute anything you said because I’m not trying to convince you, just educate.
so you know what happens when empires fall right? power vacuums! who do you think will try to become the worlds new power?
enjoy the endless wars and skirmishes as borders change and entire countries disappear overnight because the “evil hegemony, America” is gone! maybe not endless…but at least within some of our (albeit now shorter) lifetimes!
YAY! You win!
hope you aren’t draftable, or near a warzone, or…you know what you’ll find out.
I can’t imagine the cognitive dissonance these fascists are going to deal with.
In spite of themselves. Despair is a useless emotion.
Unfortunately for the majority of them it won’t be a problem. He’ll perform exactly as desired “owning the libtards” and getting rid of “the immigrants”. I wish I had a more optimistic outlook on the next 4yr but frankly we already know how it will go from his last term. At least to an extent.
You already can. Just look at how liberals are literally going insane, having delusions and hallucinations because they fundamentally cannot comprehend the inherent contradictions of their own existence.
Huh, a rare Lemmy conservative. Take a photo, kids.
Just look at how far-leftists are boosting Russia and ignoring their massive psyops operations, one of which Trump is.
Russia is an american operation, not the opposite. Remember the 90ies when they got coup’ed and starved for ten years?
Everything bad is Russia’s fault
-Average American
The “Don’t blame us we didn’t vote for him” crowd immediately turned around and a day later switched to “It doesn’t matter if you voted for him, he’s still your president” and didn’t miss a step. They are fuckin mental contortionists.
What?
Like I’m actually confused, what?
I’m not exactly sure either but the “not my president” thing seems to be primarily but not exclusively used by conservatives when they’re not in power.
But lack of progressive messaging, the genocide, and doubling down on neo liberal policies actively suppressed the vote. I blame the people who stayed home, but the blame for them doing so is exclusively on Joe Biden who will be remembered as the president who enabled Trump the second term and everything that that enables.
Probably the end of democracy in the US and likely a form of techno-monarchy and neo-feudalism.
Time to study the French Revolution comrades!
If you want to lose in 2028, just stick with that smug nonsense, even though you know it doesn’t work to win people to your side. Dems have spent the last three elections driving away votes they need if they want to win, and eventually you’re going to have to learn to engage with people in a reasonable way if that’s what you want.
It isn’t rank-and-file Democrats. At least, not directly. It’s their shitty candidates. And they might’ve actually gotten Sanders nominated, if the DNC hadn’t forced Harris on us.
There was no way that Harris was going to win. It didn’t matter how nice or persuasive her supporters were. People could clearly see that she was an empty suit.
And they might’ve actually gotten Sanders nominated, if the DNC hadn’t forced Harris on us.
You mean Hillary, different H.
OH wait unless you meant the second time when they decided to run Biden again and then when that clearly was a bad idea they shoved Harris in?
Yes, I’m talking about 2024.
Sorry, gets confusing after so many.
There is nothing smug about this. This post isn’t about winning people to “our” side. It’s about a dark acceptance of the downfall of society. One that anyone who’s been paying attention has seen coming for a long time. We vote, we gripe online. It does nothing. Because it’s designed to do nothing. We recognize it yet, it’s all we can do. We either hold hands or we fight. Either way we burn together.
It’s 100% smug.
If the problems that began under Biden continue under Trump, and your message isn’t 100% “Come back to the Democrats. This is how we’re going to make it better,” along with a solid plan to actually do it, you will lose again. The words “I told you so,” shouldn’t even be in your vocabulary anymore after the last three elections.
Yeahhhh grab em by the p, alt Reich!!!
I’m not alt-right.
I’m not even a Trump supporter.
I can, however, look at the last three elections and watch the results of you and yours making it very clear you don’t want people’s votes. Making people despise you isn’t working.
Found the “secret” conservative. Peddle your dumb rhetoric elsewhere, convervatives have been more hateful and despiseable for decades. Reasonable people are fed up with fascists trying to lie, cheat, and bully their way into everything, we’re totally allowed to be angry and it’s valid to express that. When Biden won, you assholes were so mad, the internet blew up with dumb right wing memes, “He StOlE ThE ElEcTiOn!!! So UnFaIr!!!” Fuck off.
Respectfully, you’re wrong.
I’m a Green. I don’t support Trump. I don’t support Biden, and I don’t pretend that I’m not a conservative (when conservative outcomes are what the person I voted for produces) just because my team wears a blue jersey as you do.
The new game from antagonists on Lemmy that get their kink off fighting is calling people secret conservatives. I really just try to avoid talking to them, it’s usually just to get a fight they can wank off to later.
Sure, piggie. Did the dumb joke on the Internet hurt your piggie feelings? 😭
If you don’t like what I have to say, please just hit the block button and move on.
If you know it all, why don’t you know how to win an election?
They can’t win when they aren’t even allowed to pick the candidate. The DNC already plays with a stacked deck, but they still thought that the risk of a Sanders nomination was too likely. That’s why they forced Biden/Harris on us.
Because you can’t fix stupid.
Don’t you realize what a tremendous self-own that is?
“We’re so dumb, we can’t even get stupid people to vote for us!”
Here’s an idea. How about asking the people what they need, and then making that your platform. Have you thought of that?
Feel free to do that then. I wish you the best of luck.
The problem is, the stupid people are angry, but barely know what they are angry about, so they will latch on to the first person that feeds their anger. Of course, feeding the anger will make things worse, but that doesn’t matter, since it feels good now. Now you have a double problem of the original issue still existing, and half the population asking you to make it worse, and getting mad at you when you don’t.
Basically, America is fucked, and I’m just hoping they can keep it limping along long enough for me to die of old age before it completely collapses.
Sometimes you just have to punch yourself in the face, just to see if it hurts. Then do it again.
