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      ….that Biden proposed and negotiated. Also he hasn’t been inaugurated yet lol.

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        No, Trump is just so awesome, that his powers go into effect before he’s even inaugurated! Are you ready to start winning?!

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          It’s a superposition. He’s president when the President does something largely accepted as “good” while also not being President when the President does something largely accepted as “bad”.

          This transcends all known perceptions of cause/effect to ensure their sand-based castle continues to stand. That’s what they mean by 4D Chess.

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      México too, we go with «Disfruten lo votado», bitches get mad about it

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            ah yes, the illusion of my vote mattering in my state, topped with an icing of illusion of the candidates undemocratically selected by my party representing my views in any way whatsoever. But I’m told it was on me to get off my couch and go vote for one genocider or one that was very likely a genocider, but also a complete fascist nutter. Both choices have broken laws that should have put them behind bars for the rest of their lives.

            Really, this is all my fault. Why am I so terrible?

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              I hope you understand I was only translating the phrase. I agree with the sentiment toward the MAGOOs, but everyone else is a victim of their idiocy.

              Edit: I meant to write MAGAs but MAGOOs at least makes me laugh.

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                I kinda like magoo vs maga. It feels a little like something someone’s old-world Italian uncle would have called a person in anger and disdain.

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              very likely a genocider

              There are a lot of things to be said about Trump, but we’ve actually had positive headlines regarding genocide heading into his presidency, and it’s no coincidence that the ceasefire in Gaza will go into effect when he takes office. Genocide Joe is just going to stack corpses until they wheel him out of the White House.

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                it’s no coincidence that the ceasefire in Gaza will go into effect when he takes office.

                It’s no coincidence like it’s no coincidence that paying extortion money avoids broken kneecaps.

                Its well documented that Netanyahu and Trump are buddy buddy. I guarantee you the timing was to some degree chosen explicitly to benefit Trump. Netanyahu is doing the kinds of things over there that Trump is just itching to do here. (or in Canada or in Mexico)

                If Trump gets any credit here it’s for being every bit as moustache-twirling-evil as Netanyahu such that their worldview and interests will tend to align.

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      Another one of Russia’s massive intellegence successes of late.

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      I was in the US for the first trump election and in Britain for Brexit. And now I’m back in the US for this shitshow. It’s like I can’t escape the crazy – it’s following me.

      Or maybe it’s all my fault and I’m a bad talisman. I dunno, just please make it stop.

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      Yeah there seems to be this palpable expectation on Lemmy that any day now half of the voting public is going to have some realisation and say “oh my god what have we done”.

      It doesn’t work like that though.

      Most of the actual retarded things Trump said he would do like the tariffs et cetera will be done in performative way. Done in a way that isn’t too disruptive or harmful but still lets him say he stuck it to China.

      The more insidious project 2025 stuff isn’t applied in real time. How does the media report on the slow corrosion of quality of life and rights to privacy et cetera.

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      Yeah, people keep saying “This time they’ll see!” But, aside from the occasional “leopards ate my face” moment, the same people keep lining up for more of the same.

      And much of the consequences are sloughed off on the people who are fighting hardest against it.

      They’re fucking around, and we end up finding out.

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        Oh, don’t worry, on a long enough timeline, everyone ends up finding out. It’s just that if they were capable of figuring it out, this all would have been avoided in the first place.

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    It’s one thing knowing it’s going to happen, it’s going to be something else entirely when it does.

    It’s like knowing you’re going to die. We all “know” our day is coming, but we don’t really appreciate that until we get old or someone close to us passes away.

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    This is false and we know this from the pandemic.

    Once you can’t agree on facts, you can’t be right retrospectively.

    Millions of people died, if you google US yearly death rate you see a very obvious spike.

    To me that is the smoking gun that the pandemic was in fact very deadly.

    I haven’t been able to say I told you so to any anti vaxxer.

    It’s not about logic, it’s about outrage, and that’s gonna increase moving forward.

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      They can’t win when they aren’t even allowed to pick the candidate. The DNC already plays with a stacked deck, but they still thought that the risk of a Sanders nomination was too likely. That’s why they forced Biden/Harris on us.

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        Sometimes you just have to punch yourself in the face, just to see if it hurts. Then do it again.

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        Don’t you realize what a tremendous self-own that is?

        “We’re so dumb, we can’t even get stupid people to vote for us!”

        Here’s an idea. How about asking the people what they need, and then making that your platform. Have you thought of that?

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          Feel free to do that then. I wish you the best of luck.

          The problem is, the stupid people are angry, but barely know what they are angry about, so they will latch on to the first person that feeds their anger. Of course, feeding the anger will make things worse, but that doesn’t matter, since it feels good now. Now you have a double problem of the original issue still existing, and half the population asking you to make it worse, and getting mad at you when you don’t.

          Basically, America is fucked, and I’m just hoping they can keep it limping along long enough for me to die of old age before it completely collapses.

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      The “Don’t blame us we didn’t vote for him” crowd immediately turned around and a day later switched to “It doesn’t matter if you voted for him, he’s still your president” and didn’t miss a step. They are fuckin mental contortionists.

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          I’m not exactly sure either but the “not my president” thing seems to be primarily but not exclusively used by conservatives when they’re not in power.

          But lack of progressive messaging, the genocide, and doubling down on neo liberal policies actively suppressed the vote. I blame the people who stayed home, but the blame for them doing so is exclusively on Joe Biden who will be remembered as the president who enabled Trump the second term and everything that that enables.

          Probably the end of democracy in the US and likely a form of techno-monarchy and neo-feudalism.

          Time to study the French Revolution comrades!

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      You already can. Just look at how liberals are literally going insane, having delusions and hallucinations because they fundamentally cannot comprehend the inherent contradictions of their own existence.

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      Unfortunately for the majority of them it won’t be a problem. He’ll perform exactly as desired “owning the libtards” and getting rid of “the immigrants”. I wish I had a more optimistic outlook on the next 4yr but frankly we already know how it will go from his last term. At least to an extent.

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    If you want to lose in 2028, just stick with that smug nonsense, even though you know it doesn’t work to win people to your side. Dems have spent the last three elections driving away votes they need if they want to win, and eventually you’re going to have to learn to engage with people in a reasonable way if that’s what you want.

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      There is nothing smug about this. This post isn’t about winning people to “our” side. It’s about a dark acceptance of the downfall of society. One that anyone who’s been paying attention has seen coming for a long time. We vote, we gripe online. It does nothing. Because it’s designed to do nothing. We recognize it yet, it’s all we can do. We either hold hands or we fight. Either way we burn together.

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        It’s 100% smug.

        If the problems that began under Biden continue under Trump, and your message isn’t 100% “Come back to the Democrats. This is how we’re going to make it better,” along with a solid plan to actually do it, you will lose again. The words “I told you so,” shouldn’t even be in your vocabulary anymore after the last three elections.

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        I’m not alt-right.

        I’m not even a Trump supporter.

        I can, however, look at the last three elections and watch the results of you and yours making it very clear you don’t want people’s votes. Making people despise you isn’t working.

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          Found the “secret” conservative. Peddle your dumb rhetoric elsewhere, convervatives have been more hateful and despiseable for decades. Reasonable people are fed up with fascists trying to lie, cheat, and bully their way into everything, we’re totally allowed to be angry and it’s valid to express that. When Biden won, you assholes were so mad, the internet blew up with dumb right wing memes, “He StOlE ThE ElEcTiOn!!! So UnFaIr!!!” Fuck off.

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            Respectfully, you’re wrong.

            I’m a Green. I don’t support Trump. I don’t support Biden, and I don’t pretend that I’m not a conservative (when conservative outcomes are what the person I voted for produces) just because my team wears a blue jersey as you do.

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              The new game from antagonists on Lemmy that get their kink off fighting is calling people secret conservatives. I really just try to avoid talking to them, it’s usually just to get a fight they can wank off to later.

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      It isn’t rank-and-file Democrats. At least, not directly. It’s their shitty candidates. And they might’ve actually gotten Sanders nominated, if the DNC hadn’t forced Harris on us.

      There was no way that Harris was going to win. It didn’t matter how nice or persuasive her supporters were. People could clearly see that she was an empty suit.

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    No, it’s not going to be “I told you so.”

    Conservatives will still blame Biden and dems for all the problems.

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      Right, there’s no satisfaction in pointing out the results of a conservative power grab. Their narcissism makes them immune to introspection or self-awareness.

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      Yup, they still deflect to Hillary’s emails and shit when you call out new cabinet positions. If we could harness their mental gymnastics into physical energy we’d solve the climate crisis.

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        Over Christmas my mom showed me her new “Lock Her Up!” shirt. It’s been almost 10 years since Clinton has been relevant, move on.

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      Who cares about conservatives? we talkin about who didnt vote or those “swing voters”

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      Also, there’s a lot of people that will say, “don’t be mean to them, that never changes their mind!” “talk to them, be empathetic”

      Man, anyone suffering after voting for Trump deserves a big “fuck you”.

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        Yeah, I will never forgive a 2024 Trump voter. They know who they voted for, they know who he is. No excuses this time. Trump voters claiming ignorance this time will not be accepted.

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      Not if historic patterns repeat.

      Clinton, Dubya, Obama, and Trump all went into office with control of Congress and lost it at the mid-terms, so it’s not unlikely that a portion of voters will flip in 2026.

      They’ll be back in 2028 though, when the Dems nominate Gavin Newsom and try replay this ‘joy and unity’ bullshit again.

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    As much as I enjoy saying “I told you so,” which is a LOT, I’m really goddamn tired of being proven right so fucking much.

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      The main issue, which I find with conservative voters a lot, is that unless they are obviously and directly impacted by something they will never notice or link actions and consequences.

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        And even if they are they will redirect it. Was inflation caused by trump printing $7 trillion dollars in one year while forgiving PPP loans made by wealthy businesses? No, it’s because Biden passed an infrastructure bill.

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          Or you can go back 1 step further. Was it caused by Trump firing the pandemic response team and allowing Covid to be the first domestic pandemic in a hundred years, and forcing a shutdown of almost all US business, forcing the Fed to drop interest rates to historic lows to stimulate the economy, and way overdoing that, allowing the wealthy to buy more assets for essentially nothing while the working class worried about if they would lose their jobs while the investor class bought more and more property driving housing inflation while supply chains worldwide were put on hold and then jump started causing everyone to raise price to make up for lost income and increased demand causing inflation in goods. Then with goods being so much more expensive and a ton of freshly printed money driving inflation, did people want to be paid more to continue to exist, driving wage inflation?

          No, surely it was Joe Biden being nice to trans people that caused this. People are fucking stupid, and I’m not looking forward to the next 4 years.

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    “You fuckers asked for this so either shut up or move”

    Going to be the only thing keeping me going

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      I’m buying a bunch of “I did that!” Trump stickers to slap on empty grocery shelves. That’s gonna be fun.

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        Yep those things need to be EVERYWHERE after they had those dumbass Biden ones, and the best part is that this time they’ll actually be correct

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    Climate change wasn’t real enough for half the country, so now everyone has to suffer.

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    $20 eggs is merely part of the 29D chess move that will eventually make eggs free!

    Just keep waiting.

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      “Guys, guys, eventually the price will go down. We just need to consolidate the producers to one, then they will definitely lower it to a reasonable price.” - Smug Asshole

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        Once one billionaire owns literally everything he will finally have sufficient power to lower the price of eggs.

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    “I told you so when I stayed home on voting day, didn’t oppose it, and blamed it on democrats while calling every leftist who isn’t just like me a fascist!”

    -American leftists

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      no no. they called everyone a Nazi because they were supporting the genocide in Palestine.

      everyday I’m on this platform I’m convinced that at least 70% of the content is generated by Russian and Chinese propagandists. because at the end of the day nobody can be this obtusely uneducated of the facts.

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    It’s been like that for the last 2 months.

    Silver lining is that we’re looking at a clown-show fascist circus instead of an effective fascist takeover.

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      This might very well not (yet) be the “burning of the reichstag and declaration of the state of emergency” part of the fashist takeover. Trump is incompetent but if he does to much damage the government might just complety collapse and musk and zuck can enact a monarchy.

      I am much more afraid of the people in the second row ready to take over than of trump himself.