• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Then don’t get mad when people talk about how it’s a problem when democrats don’t run honest primaries, when they deign to run them at all.

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      17 hours ago

      They’ll get mad at you and me for pointing out actions with our words, but treat their words as gospel and their actions as things that just naturally occurred without any motive behind them.

      Energy single time someone does this, I just block them. If they want to defend the party that sold us all out 3 times in a row, they can donate to the next fundraiser.

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        9 hours ago

        You lost the plot a long time ago. We’re talking about how shitty the party is and Gavin Newsom is specifically. You have an interesting interpretation of the conversation.

        It’s cute you think the party has only sold you out 3 times though.

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      1 day ago

      When did I do that?

      How about you don’t jump in to demoralize every chance you get. Try to come up with solutions and ways forward. We all know things are fucked we’re just not apathetic whiners who see no way out and want to spread our apathy to others.

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        17 hours ago

        I’m pointing out the first significant hurdle that needs to be overcome if we want to change anything.

        You’re just mad because you don’t want that problem solved.

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          9 hours ago

          No you’re not, you’re just complaining. If there were anything actionable or useful in your comments I wouldn’t have responded to you.

          But again, why do you think I don’t want “that problem” solved. It would benefit me for it to be solved.

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            9 hours ago

            But again, why do you think I don’t want “that problem” solved. It would benefit me for it to be solved.

            So where are your solutions? You have to have a perfect solution for everything before you admit anything is a problem, or you must shut up because reasons.

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              8 hours ago

              I’m working in real life to organize which is a hell of a lot more useful than trying to demoralize progressives online. I tell people as often as I can, especially my trans and bipoc friends; now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities. The police will not protect us, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety.

              Iran was a secular, liberal state until almost 1980 when they (mostly legitimately) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could happen here.

              Get to know people in your community. Take an interest in growing food, learn how to fix things. Get a gun (or two) and learn how to use them. Establish secondary lines of communication and start preparing. Put in the work instead of suppressing people who are on your side.

              https://www.dsausa.org/

              https://mutualaiddisasterrelief.org/

              https://socialistra.org/

              https://generalstrikeus.com/

              https://afsc.org/news/how-create-mutual-aid-network

              https://www.immigrantdefenseproject.org/raids/

              https://mutualaidhub.org/

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                7 hours ago

                Ok, and how will becoming a prepper get the party to start holding trustworthy primaries?

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                  7 hours ago

                  That’s what you took from that entire statement?

                  OK then, I think I’ve discovered the problem. Have a nice day.

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                    7 hours ago

                    OK then, I think I’ve discovered the problem.

                    Yeah, I’m not willing to pretend that untrustworthy primaries are trustworthy, and you consider that a problem.