Driving 3 million people into a concentration camp and restricting food, water, and medicine is with the intention to ethnically cleanse them is bad, but have you considered that using violence to escape that concentration camp is also bad?
They forget that centrists don’t mean being in the middle of each extreme. If one side is calling for genocide and the other is calling for the prosecution of those advocating for genocide, a centrist perspective isn’t about endorsing a little bit of genocide or putting a few people in prison.
Instead, it involves investigating how we reached a situation where people are calling for genocide, apprehending the group that could actually commit genocide, and dismantling the institutions that made it possible for people to join that group. This process is resource-intensive and often anticlimactic.
You don’t win by persecuting people, you win by making it difficult to commit crimes. It is a slow process that requires swift action.
The left’s search for idealism is what doomed them in the 2024 election.
If one side is calling for genocide and the other is calling for the prosecution of those advocating for genocide, a centrist perspective isn’t about endorsing a little bit of genocide or putting a few people in prison.
This is not the situation. Both the fascist Republican and the Democratic Party, that’s supposed to be the opposition to Fascism, unconditionally supported arming a state that has not only been committing genocide for over 15 months, but has committed ethnic cleansing, apartheid, and settler colonialism for over 76 years.
Instead, it involves investigating how we reached a situation where people are calling for genocide, apprehending the group that could actually commit genocide, and dismantling the institutions that made it possible for people to join that group. This process is resource-intensive and often anticlimactic.
This is an incredibly far left position to the Democratic Party, which denounced the ICC arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant and the ICJ case against Israel. Nor is it anticlimactic when we know genocide is already underway because of how incredibly well documented it has been.
The left’s search for idealism is what doomed them in the 2024 election.
Do you mean the Democratic Party here? Because what doomed them is ignoring the demands of their constituents. “The Left” in the US is entirely grassroots and had no effect on the policies of the Democratic Party during the election.
You don’t win by persecuting people, you win by making it difficult to commit crimes.
Well provided you accept that you need to prosecute the people who’ve already committed crimes. You can’t just go ooh well it’s society’s fault so let them be
When someone does “both sides” to a group committing genocide and their victims, they are supporting genocide.
If you’re being stabbed and I go “Yes, stabbing random people is bad, but you’re ruining his jacket by bleeding on it, so really you’re both bad people”, that criticism is supporting the guy who is currently stabbing you.
Except one side here is committing the genocide, Hamas is not restricting food, water, and medicine into Israel, Hamas is not targeting Israeli hospitals, Hamas didn’t kill hundreds of Israeli children yesterday.
It’s gross to refer to Palestine’s response to getting rounded into a concentration camp and subject to inhuman conditions as if they were doing the same thing to people living in Israel.
But the right think that Trump is wonderful. At least the right in the US do, I think the right in every other country thinks he’s a dork who’s drawing too much attention to himself, and them by extension.
The top comment is giving a false equivalence of the leaders of Israel who are perpetuating genocide and the leaders of Hamas that are resisting that genocide. There are many parallels to the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and it should be clear to everyone that equating the leadership of that uprising to the leadership of those who put them in the concentration camps is ridiculous
Bullshit
I’m a centrist
The Israeli government and Hamas leadership should both be put in front of a wall and shot
Trump is a lying narcissistic sack of shit, just like Elmo Musk
None of that should be on any political side, those are obviously human choices
Driving 3 million people into a concentration camp and restricting food, water, and medicine is with the intention to ethnically cleanse them is bad, but have you considered that using violence to escape that concentration camp is also bad?
Let’s meet in the middle. How about we only exterminate half of them?
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They forget that centrists don’t mean being in the middle of each extreme. If one side is calling for genocide and the other is calling for the prosecution of those advocating for genocide, a centrist perspective isn’t about endorsing a little bit of genocide or putting a few people in prison.
Instead, it involves investigating how we reached a situation where people are calling for genocide, apprehending the group that could actually commit genocide, and dismantling the institutions that made it possible for people to join that group. This process is resource-intensive and often anticlimactic.
You don’t win by persecuting people, you win by making it difficult to commit crimes. It is a slow process that requires swift action.
The left’s search for idealism is what doomed them in the 2024 election.
This is not the situation. Both the fascist Republican and the Democratic Party, that’s supposed to be the opposition to Fascism, unconditionally supported arming a state that has not only been committing genocide for over 15 months, but has committed ethnic cleansing, apartheid, and settler colonialism for over 76 years.
This is an incredibly far left position to the Democratic Party, which denounced the ICC arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant and the ICJ case against Israel. Nor is it anticlimactic when we know genocide is already underway because of how incredibly well documented it has been.
Do you mean the Democratic Party here? Because what doomed them is ignoring the demands of their constituents. “The Left” in the US is entirely grassroots and had no effect on the policies of the Democratic Party during the election.
Well provided you accept that you need to prosecute the people who’ve already committed crimes. You can’t just go ooh well it’s society’s fault so let them be
Of course you have to prosecute criminals, what is an alternative for that?
Making them president, apparently
Take the W man.
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Who is?
Oh my. An actual centrist and not a far-right nutjob claiming it to seem intellectually superior. What a sight for sore eyes
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Wait actually? I didn’t check I just took this one comment at face value. The one time I don’t do my due diligence lmao
Looking at a dozen of his comments, that does not appear to be the case.
Criticizing HAMAS =/= genocide supporter
When someone does “both sides” to a group committing genocide and their victims, they are supporting genocide.
If you’re being stabbed and I go “Yes, stabbing random people is bad, but you’re ruining his jacket by bleeding on it, so really you’re both bad people”, that criticism is supporting the guy who is currently stabbing you.
Yeah but that’s not really what he said right? What he said was more along the lines of “Fuck you for stabbing them. Fuck you for stabbing back”
To be clear, I don’t actually agree with them. I was just surprised by a genuinely centrist opinion of “fuck you all for everything”
Edit: Nah I was kinda off the mark with this one actually
Except one side here is committing the genocide, Hamas is not restricting food, water, and medicine into Israel, Hamas is not targeting Israeli hospitals, Hamas didn’t kill hundreds of Israeli children yesterday.
It’s gross to refer to Palestine’s response to getting rounded into a concentration camp and subject to inhuman conditions as if they were doing the same thing to people living in Israel.
I concede my point. It is more similar to the jacket bleeding, yeah
But the right think that Trump is wonderful. At least the right in the US do, I think the right in every other country thinks he’s a dork who’s drawing too much attention to himself, and them by extension.
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Why /s?
The top comment is giving a false equivalence of the leaders of Israel who are perpetuating genocide and the leaders of Hamas that are resisting that genocide. There are many parallels to the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and it should be clear to everyone that equating the leadership of that uprising to the leadership of those who put them in the concentration camps is ridiculous