The “from the river to the sea…” phrase is forbidden as it supposedly denies the right of the existence of the Jewish state Israel which, in Germany, is considered as a special form of antisemitism.
It was a rhethorical question and AFAIK not technically correct (it’s supposedly the slogan of Hamas, which is classified as a terrorist organization - that’s a simple way of constricting German freedom of speech).
But yeah: my point was whether the OP said about israelis wouldn’t be considered antisemitic in Germany.
According to the German Wikipedia article on that phrase, it was forbidden as it is a Hamas slogan, but only in the context of endorsement of terrorism, not in general. So there have been cases, where the use was not prohibited on a rally, as it’s organisers made explicitly clear that they don’t endorse Hamas nor terrorism.
And it still discriminates against all legitimate uses. Because you can never be sure if the police still decides to break up the protest after such a chant. And when the police breaks up the protest (with the possibility of violence) after the parole has been used and then it turns out that a judge later decides that it wasn’t illegal, it’s probably less of a consolidation after the fact.
Why would they? They areein line with the “Staatsräson”. Friedrich Merz even wanted to invite one of them, even though he’s got an international arrest warrant.
The “from the river to the sea…” phrase is forbidden as it supposedly denies the right of the existence of the Jewish state Israel which, in Germany, is considered as a special form of antisemitism.
It was a rhethorical question and AFAIK not technically correct (it’s supposedly the slogan of Hamas, which is classified as a terrorist organization - that’s a simple way of constricting German freedom of speech).
But yeah: my point was whether the OP said about israelis wouldn’t be considered antisemitic in Germany.
According to the German Wikipedia article on that phrase, it was forbidden as it is a Hamas slogan, but only in the context of endorsement of terrorism, not in general. So there have been cases, where the use was not prohibited on a rally, as it’s organisers made explicitly clear that they don’t endorse Hamas nor terrorism.
Its allegedly is a Hamas slogan.
And it still discriminates against all legitimate uses. Because you can never be sure if the police still decides to break up the protest after such a chant. And when the police breaks up the protest (with the possibility of violence) after the parole has been used and then it turns out that a judge later decides that it wasn’t illegal, it’s probably less of a consolidation after the fact.
It was not invented by Hamas, but they’ve used it.
And?
So have Israeli ultra-nationalists (not with the “Palestine” bit, but… yeah)
I know and I find that one much worse than the Palestine version.
AfaIk, Israeli ultra nationalists, unfortunately, are not considered terror organizations in Germany.
Why would they? They areein line with the “Staatsräson”. Friedrich Merz even wanted to invite one of them, even though he’s got an international arrest warrant.
Do you understand the meaning of “unfortunately”? Does it suggest, I’m okay with that?