Pakistan saying they would nuke Israel if Israel nuked Iran probably was the only thing holding Israel back from pulling the trigger. If there was ever a group of people who should never be permitted to have nuclear weapons, its the Israelis.
Trump is as dumb as a sack of hammers, and he’s looking for a nail. He just wants to treat nukes like playthings, a rich man’s flex. Just to say he did. Like a canned trophy hunt of a Lion from the safety of helicopters and trucks with everyone around him at his paid service. No risk, no personal jeopardy. Drop the bomb for lols just to experience the fact he did it and will brag about it.
If he drops a nuke, he instantly becomes the most dangerous man in history, they only guy willing to use a nuke for normal war purposes (for which there are nearly infinite alternative options), and to flex his ego (which has no limit). Now when he threatens a country, they will have to believe him, because he’s done it before.
With that in mind, I would think nearly every nation with a highly organized covert intelligence service would decide that it’s time to remove that threat from the planet.
Hey guys, how about we nuke the wind?
What a shitty country.
Trump cheated to win the election. Most Americans are against him.
edit: I’m not just saying this, there’s evidence to suggest it
However, yes, the country is shit right now. I agree.
Most Americans might be against him, but the majority of those that voted voted for him. People’s apathy and the DNC continually being useless helped Trump win.
Most Americans are against him.
I’ll believe it when I see it. What I see is Trump and his ICE Brownshorts running all over the place with almost zero resistance.
Lol. No. Fsce rey reality of your country, otherwise you’ll be unable to fix it.
He has an almost 50% approval rating from Americans so while you’re technically correct, that’s still a ridiculous amount of Americans who like him
That’s not the statistic I’ve seen. It was in the 30s last I saw. Among Republicans it was still fairly high, like 60s, and higher among MAGA, but the general public was much lower. Can you cite a recent source for your number? Otherwise, I’ll bolo for some updated numbers.
These are the stats I found:
- According to the most recent Gallup poll, Trump’s job approval rating was 43% in May.
- The Economist shows that 41% of people are favorable of Trump and 53% are unfavorable of him, according to the latest update from June 20.
- Rasmussen Reports poll from June 20 showed 52% approval and 47% disapproval of Trump.
- The Morning Consult tracker poll taken mid-June has dropped to 46% approval rating and 52% who disapprove.
- A Reuters/Ipsos poll reported that, as of June 16, 42% of those surveyed gave him a favorable approval rating of his performance in office.
- An InsiderAdvantage poll taken between June 15-16 showed Trump with 54.4% approval over a 44.1% disapproval of his job performance.
From here
Nice work, mate. Good on ya! (I’m watching Bluey with my kids right now) Looks like I’ve been outdated.
Well, the rest of Americans need to wake tf up. It’s going to take most of us to right the ship. Fuck the rich, fuck the racists/sexists/homophobes/etc., and fuck any MAGAts who somehow aren’t covered by the previous.
Fuck the rich, fuck the racists/sexists/homophobes/etc., and fuck any MAGAts who somehow aren’t covered by the previous
100% agreed
Ffs, by what half baked metrics are people rating that guy?
Most Americans are against him
Most Americans should have showed up to vote, then. Or not protest vote for a limp-dick 3rd party. As far as I’m concerned, most Americans are in support of what he’s doing, because they didn’t show otherwise on election day.
The only voter demographic that saw a decrease in the last election compared to 2016 was white men. If you’re going to cry “rigged election,” then you’re undermining democracy in exactly the same way the MAGA crowd does.
Iran’s a shitty country.
Why?
(not who you replied to) We can be anti-zionists without being pro-Iran. They have a horrific history of human rights abuses. Their sovereignty is being violated, but their government is not a good one.
No no. Not pro-Iran government, just curious what the specific reason are for calling it a shit country.
Seems to me, like there is EXTREMELY, next to zero, or perhaps zero reason to ever HAVE to use a nuke. Nuke’s should be a defensive deterrent, not a first choice. I’m sure the military has plenty of other options.
I’m sure the military has plenty of other options.
The other option is the GBU-57 bunker buster bombs, which is what they used - but a single bomb like that isn’t capable of reaching deep enough on its own. So they had to use a significant portion of their stockpile to achieve their objective that way.
The alternative would have been to drop in special forces and have them break into the heavily defended facility the traditional way.
If you are not ready to use a nuke ever, it stops being a deterrent. Game theory.
But this situation is not the kind where a nuke is used as a deterrent. If Israel was saying they’re sorry and asking for ceasefire, while Iranians would be absolutely destroying what remains of it and not listening, then yes.
Or, if Iran had a nuke and Israelis were succeeding in destroying Iran.
But neither are true.
There are 13k ton bombs that can penetrate pretty deep dropped by B2 bombers, which might be headed to the ME right now.
The B2s will be flown into Diego Garcia. The only time they will be in the middle east is if they are over a target. Hopefully they stay in Diego Garcia.
Oh honey, read some of the norbert weiner type of nuke cult guys, and their Soviet counterparts.
This is a rabbit hole nobody wants anybody to ho down.
hole nobody wants anybody to ho down.
If this series of murderous far right zionist military adventures proves anything, its that American politicians will ho themselves down any hole.
And have before, but some of them are…
Well, they did it. Now Iran will lash out and close the straits of Hormuz. It’s the only threat that they can carry out now…
US Reportedly Assesses It Would Need to Drop Nuclear Bomb to Destroy Iran Nuclear Facility
Well, they did it.
No they didn’t. It was conventional bombs, not nuclear.
Sorry forgot about the nuclear bit of the bomb. Regardless, I want to be drafted into the psychic corps for the upcoming world war regardless of talent
…and we’ll sink the ships, and have dogfights over the sea, and it will escalate, and hello World War 3!
I was hoping they could wait a few more years so I’d be too old to be drafted, but looks like I’ll be twerking in Tehran
No, resist the draft. Drafts are evil, do ANYTHING to avoid fighting a MAGA War. My son is the perfect draft age, and he is NEVER going to fight for MAGA. If they want it so bad, the MAGAs can sacrifice their own.
Get a doctor to say your son has bone spurs.
It is so odd that this info being publicized…
They are trying to scare Iran into giving into what they want.
He thinks this is a genius plan.
It’s stupid.
He will chicken out and give the nukes to them… And call it the most brilliant thing anyone has ever done
they just want to test how much public outcry there would be
Don’t worry guys we’re not going to war.
Well im not.
Bring your steam decks
Lan party?
We’re playing Counter Strike, and later, you’re in Counter Strike.
Too late, we’ve been at war for a long time.
Yeah no hipocrisy and double standards whatsoever /s
President Donald Trump is not considering using a nuclear weapon, The Guardian reported on Wednesday
There’s no need to lose one’s mind over this. The headline isn’t saying a nuke should be used - it’s simply pointing out that a nuclear weapon would be the only thing capable of reaching a facility buried that deep under a mountain. The next best option would be the GBU-57 bunker-buster, but the U.S. would need to use a significant portion of its stockpile, since you’d have to hit the same spot multiple times to drill that deep. And even then, you’d likely only damage one section of the facility, with other parts protected behind blast doors.
Trump isn’t “considering” anything. He’s not a rational actor, he’s a narcissistic egomaniac, unable to ask or take advice, unable to think about anything that isn’t about how cool he is perceived.
So basically the won’t destroy it and Iran will though horrible expensive an even deeper facilty and go for the bomb, now for real.
I checked if this was the onion after reading the title
Dumbo with the big ears is pulling the strings of the empty-headed Scarecrow.
What if you bomb the entrances?
It would help to some extent, but they’d have to keep bombing the facility consistently - and indefinitely - to keep it out of service.
I wonder what the rate of bombing would be needed to keep up with modern excavation techniques. Though I imagine there are too many variables to say anything meaningful.
None of us really have any power to change what’s coming. It is what it is.
I like to take comfort in the fact climate change is going to collapse civilization and drive the human race to functional extinction anyway, so none of this really matters.
Let the nukes fly. Better to die in a fireball than from starvation.
LFG.
Someone got a few inches away from changing it, fwiw. Get your ecofascist doomer shit out of here.
Trump just desperately wants to nuke something. Anything’s fine, he just wants to drop a nuclear bomb on stuff. I mean, he was floating nuking a goddamned hurricane before.
He’s like a toddler that sees a big red button and just HAS to push it, because it’s just there and it’s so big and red and it will make things go boom!
Just like the original video for Land Of Confusion where senile Reagan in a hospital bed pushing the NUKE button that’s next to the NURSE button.
I don’t trust him not to nuke even NYC.
I don’t disagree with your sentiment, but I think NYC would be off limits because it’s his “home” where he “has the tallest building because of 9/11” and other dumbass beliefs. Basically, he wouldn’t want to harm his precious Trump Tower.
LA though? Yeah, he might just fuckin do it.
Yep, I know. But that’s my point. I don’t even trust him that far.
Not desperate enough, apparently. I’ve yet to see any of the people who were absolutely certain yesterday that a nuke was going to be dropped admit they were wrong.
Project plow share the border?
While you’re not wrong, in general, I personally think this might be an excuse for us not to bomb the place. Trump has got himself caught in a civil war between his own cult members, and he hates not being at the center of attention and obeyed unconditionally. This might be a way to placate both sides. He can tell the pro-war side that he can’t use a weapon that’ll do the job, and he can tell the no-war side that he’s not gonna nuke it.
That way the Orange Jackass can wrench the conversation back to about how “he’s more peaceful than anyone’s ever seen before” or whatever bullshit he decides to vomit up.
Not even a complete day later and we’ve used B2 bombers to bomb them
This aged poorly lol
Tucker is only against this because he’s been paid by Putin right?
I assumed most of the Magats that are against the bombing Iran are paid shills. What’s Tim Pool’s take on it? (Disclaimer, I actually couldn’t give two shits what any of them think, we should be negotiating and solve this like fucking adults).
You’re giving him waaay too much credit.
All he does is rant and complain, while doing what the Heritage Foundation people tell him to sign.It isn’t anything more complicated than that.
He’s a psychopathic narcissist. He thinks he always needs to be at the center of attention. Wouldn’t call that complicated.
This. His fan base thinks he’s playing 5D chess, while the liberals think he’s playing chess, but in reality he’s being allowed by his babysitters to throw checker pieces everywhere to divert attention.
He should start a youtube channel that tests dropping nukes on various things
