also downvoted for preferring democracy lol

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    Tankies should go to their best korea and shut up about how stalin, mao, polpot and the likes were really mis understood and really had some great ideas we should reimplement.

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    I’m tired of seeing these .ml arseholes, how can I block the whole instance??

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        That’s why I’m on infosec.pub. There should be a list somewhere of instances which defederate from those annoying instances so people can more easily pick a good home server.

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      In your account settings I think. You can do so in your web client or app you use.

      I haven’t blocked ml of hexbear cause I find some of their content interesting. I always like to consider all sides.

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    Any country that says that they don’t have any “homeless or beggars” is either lying, or killing people on the street.

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          Hey they have “right to work” in Florida! They must be the most “Democratic” place in the world!

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        The part they don’t like talking about is the police approach homeless people in China and give them the option to either do whatever job tbey are given or go to prison and dissapear.

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    You can criticize the US without making other authoritarian states look good. Both can be bad

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        It does feel bad, but I keep thinking about the people who don’t know any better falling into that way of thinking. If there is at least one person in there questioning their circle jerk. I feel like it can save people a lot of trouble.

        Thanks for creating this post! I think it also helps.

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          That’s most likely why your comments were removed and your account banned, huh? Can’t have dissent.

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            Yup, they are not interested in having real discussions. They are just larping.

            I know some of them are victims and are just there because they fell for it. You can tell because they are the ones who engage you with curiosity instead of contempt.

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    Yeah sure, NK is a total utopia. Especially like the part where it says “Workers are the owner of the means of production” as if they didn’t have one dictator that was in charge without anyone really having a choice.

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    also look at these weird ass rules. This is for the “korea” community

    Insecure much?

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      I love how this kinds of communities describe themselfes as welcome to discussion and the write all the “facts” as a rule and everybody who says anything els gets banned.

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        And remember anyone they disagree with gets “rule 1” banned. Its so blatantly used as well, you can check the mod logs and see the things getting people banned for.

        Hell look at the last “rule 1” ban on .ml someone was banned for posting:

        “Where can I find a pie chart of market shares for the instances? I would expect that none of them is more than 51% alone. Only then we can call this “decentralization”, right?”

        How very uncivil of them…

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        Yeah, I don’t really understand why tankies pretend to be liberals so much. So many of their communities are all like ‘discussion welcome!’

        But of course it isn’t actually welcome. I’ve noticed that it’s special to tankies, and that other extremists openly embrace their ignorance.

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              I don’t think it matters much

              These are people who call NK a free country so we aren’t talking about the most rational beliefs

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            You’re getting a lot of downvotes but no explanation.

            Communism is a classless stateless society. The fact that all these groups are massive states with untouchable political classes rebuts any assertion of communism. Second is the difference between nouns and adjectives. The Communist Party is a noun. Such parties are never able to be described as communist however. In fact Vanguard parties are an antithesis to communism. And would have to be overthrown before achieving communism.

            If you take leninism / maoism seriously. They are supposed to be frameworks with which to jumpstart communism. Sort of like all that " one weird trick to perfect health that doctors hate" spam you see all over the internet. Bullshit.

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              They go around calling themselves communists and I believe them

              We aren’t talking about the most rational people here

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                They’ve given you no reason to believe them. They’ve lied to you about everything. I too am a communist. Anarco communist. Everything I stand for is opposed to them. One of us must be wrong.

                But here’s something to think about before you decide who’s correct. They want you and others to treat them as if they were communist do you really want to give them what they want? That seems counterintuitive to accept their claims on face value when they’re so dishonest about everything else.

                While for my part all I’ve done is try to engage you in good faith and treat if you like an adult.

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                They want to be liberals, they’re obsessed with liberty, freedom and they demand and defend tolerance.

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              Why can’t the be?

              If someone says they they are a communist I believe them. (Sorry, I mean Marxist)

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        I, for one, am sick of the media I listen to constantly telling me it would be fine to completely destroy North Korea in an invasion.

        I am seriously very curious about who these people are that are posting and participating in this place. Is it North Korean trolls? Normal trolls who are taking the piss? Western communists who know it’s bullshit but see it as their duty to say it anyway? Western communists who really believe it? Russians who just want to talk up their friends and poop on the US and don’t really care if anyone believes it or not? People with mental illness? People who just want a tribe to be part of? Is it just the lemmygrad admins just making on-brand activity on their server? Who the hell is participating in this? Why?

        Also, I took a look. Their video of people “enjoying” is very weird. It reminds me of the USSR Billy Joel concert with him yelling at his crew to take the cameras off people because they were only allowed to have fun off camera.

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          Western communists who know it’s bullshit but see it as their duty to say it anyway? People with mental illness? People who just want a tribe to be part of? Who the hell is participating in this? Why?

          Yeah, pretty much summed it up. As for the why? it’s because they are lonely and lazy.

          Also, I took a look. Their video of people “enjoying” is very weird. It reminds me of the USSR Billy Joel concert with him yelling at his crew to take the cameras off people because they were only allowed to have fun off camera.

          I can believe the video is authentic. But it’s important to note that these are the 0.1 percent of North Koreans, the ultra rich. Most are incredibly impoverished. The video’s weird because none of them want to get sand on themselves, they don’t want to look like the dirty peasants, hence their awkward movements. Appearance is very important in North Korea.

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            Oh, it definitely looked genuine to me (although obviously I have no idea). It just didn’t look like anyone was having any fun.

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          For me it’s mostly about hate. You guys downplayed palestine for the last year. Thus i hate you. Thus if you hate north korea, i love it.

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      And then people ask why the lemmy devs receive so little funding. I want to support lemmy but I just can’t morally support people pushing this agenda.

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    I want every ml in the world to move to north korea or china or any country they stan so much and live there for the rest of their life so that they will feel how “great” and “democratic” these “utopias” are.

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      They absolutely can move to their favourite places. Iran, China, Russia – But they never do. They’re very lazy. Or perhaps deep down they know that their entire being is a trend that they latched onto to look better.

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            I think a ton of them are, yeah. They’re kids who were fed propaganda about the USA being the greatest country in the world and after correctly realising it’s bullshit, they just flipped everything in their heads and started believing the exact opposite - and since they were told the USSR was a shithole, it must mean it’s a paradise on Earth.

            The pendulum swings from one extreme to the other.

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              I do know that there are at least a few tankies from Iran, Turkey, China and Russia. (I’ve seen comments from them)

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          I mean China, Russia and any other authoritarian nation.

          They are probably a result of brain washing done by authoritarian governments

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    Women and Men receive the same payment for the same work

    That payment? $24 per year.

    That’s not a joke. That is the real number at the black market exchange rate.