Watch these cost the same as standard seats, and the cost of standard seats go up
“You’re still a premium subscriber and have full access to our premium plan, but some of our options have changed.”
Honestly, that may actually be more comfortable for me than trying to fold my legs into the tiny rows they have now.
I am super torn here because pre-back-surgery me looks at these and says “the NERVE of these fuckers” and post-back-surgery me is like “Well that WOULD be nice yes”
Why don’t they do lay-down-only seats? Seems like you’d save the same amount of space or more with vastly more comfort.
The serious non-joke answer is the same as the one for these standing seats: emergency exit speed. When an airplane crash lands you have like less than 2 minutes to get everyone out before the huge inferno happens and roasts people. So for standing seats that pack even more people into an airplane, they have to prove that they can still get everyone out before the deadline. For laying-down seats they would have to prove the same thing.
Just lean it forward and have everyone slide down and out of the emergency slide.
Pop me out the side with compressed air like a decoy flare
People too fat
So we’ll have them stand for hours instead?
The next step is to add a treadmill under everyone.
Instead of oxygen masks, the ceiling drops down a cupcake on a string.
Why don’t they do lay-down-only seats?
Bigger and older passengers would find it more difficult to get into the top bunk than to ride a standing-only seat.
But it’s all shit regardless. Boeing can barely even make planes that don’t fall apart on the runway. The American airline industry’s fleet is increasingly defunct. The FAA is gutted. Airports are falling into disrepare due to mismanagement. You’ll be lucky to get any kind of air travel in another decade.
!remindme 10 years
Bigger and older passengers would find it more difficult to get into the top bunk than to ride a standing-only seat.
Wouldn’t the same group have trouble standing for an entire flight?
If only there was some sort of halfway point between lying down and standing up, something which would be easier to than lying down, but wouldn’t be as physically demanding as standing up.
Oh well.
Sounds like something we’ll have to pay extra for. Better not have a disability.
Hmm…
Well that’s one thing I can’t really complain about in Finland, access to physically disabled people. Its honestly pretty great, it’s been in the infra-design and all design mentality for decades.
Anywhere there is public access, you’ll probably also find disabled access.
Like just today, I felt a little bit proud, as I spotted an outhouse built to specifications allowing wheelchair access.
We aren’t the utopia people seem to think we are, but if you’re in a wheelchair, you’ll still get access to nice nature paths on which to be depressed on. So that’s nice.
The FAA’s goal of zero air disasters will feel like a luxury in the future.
Yeah, since this is a shit post, why don’t they wrap the passengers like a piece of luggage and store them on a shelf? Save so much room… Just give them diapers! /S
An additional $25 Diaper Convenience Fee has been automatically added to your total.
Solution: bring a cheap plastic chair as part of your luggage
And if the plane fails, jump out of the plane with the chair and sit down/stand up as you’re about to hit the ground.
You won’t receive any fall damage during the animation.
(Make sure to check patch notes, this is a 2020 update exploit)
Im ok with it given it would probably be easier on my back
Honestly I didn’t even realize until now how good the cropping is on lemmy compared to redd*t. holy shit the number of memes that came from screenshots of twitter screenshotted on insta screenshotted on whatever the fuck but this one was profile.
The lengths the US will go to to avoid building high-speed rail.
This is almost certainly a European thing.
It is a European thing!
https://liveandletsfly.com/ryanair-showcases-standing-room-vertical-seats/
Because of course it’s Ryanair.
Oh, you want a seat? That’s an extra £50. Each. Both ways. Go fuck yourselves.
The EU needs to regulate the fuck out of that shitbag company.
It’s a capitalism thing.
Extract as much value as possible. Deliver as little value to your customers as possible. Treat them as second layer of product.
Human needs are not the goal.
This isn’tcurrently anAmerican thing like the other person suggested though
Yep, nobody ever tried to exploit their fellow humans until capitalism was adopted in the 18th century. The other economic systems that existed parallel to capitalism were also exploitation-free.
The point isn’t that capitalism is worse, but that it isn’t any better. Despite all the fancy clothes and powdered wigs there is still a class oppressing another class except now the oppressors enjoy far fewer violent deaths.
At least a king had the decency to die several hundred feet behind the poor fucking levies in the same muck as them.
I never suggested otherwise. However capitalism’s core motivator is exploitation.
It is in no way wrong to suggest we move away from such a model, or criticize such a model.
Ryanair has no plans to introduce them. (sorry for the metro link).
Also Ireland kind of gets a pass they don’t have a rail link to anywhere. A Dublin-Holyhead tunnel would definitely be a good idea.
The UK can barely get high speed rail going to Birmingham where they’ve already got tracks. The rest of HS2 got cancelled.
I don’t see how the same thing under the sea would ever get done.
Plus trains here are more expensive than planes for no reason whatsoever other than greed.
The rest of HS2 got cancelled.
Practically as an act of economic sabotage. British people hate their country and are actively trying to destroy it from within
Any non-car related spending is a “war on motorists”.
Seemingly half the country think that millionaire man-of-the-people Nigel Farage will be the one to lead us to the sunlit uplands, and the only position he’s never flip-flopped on is bringing back smoking in pubs.
We are doomed.
I was going to add a jab at the Brits but then thought “nah, they’re going to do that themselves, much more effective that way”.
I’m 6’6". Standing only seats would be preferable to me.
I’m 5’5" and I just know my legs would dangle like a child on their first roller coaster.
5’4" here. Yeah, I wouldn’t be able to reach the floor and would hang there like a rag doll. 🤣
Yeah, crouching like a gremlin under the hand luggage chutes? Fuck that.
Currently my strategy is to attempt to fold my legs under the seat and essentially kneel because it’s not physically possible for my thighs to fit. Between kneeling and praying to the God of capitalism to not give me a dvt vs crouching like the subhuman ogre I am: I’ll crouch.
Oh man, I (also 2 m) can relate. For me it’s always one of the emergency exit seats, that fit not too bad. But that luxury to be able to sit decently costs extra.
How people can look at (mostly) state owned rail vs private airlines and still think the free market benefits the average person is one of life’s big mysteries to me.
I mean, Trump won the vote, and Brexit won the vote… Something tells me it’s as simple as most people are fucking stupid.
It sounds quiet ridiculous, but I also had some flights that were so short (~50 min) that it almost took more time to seat everybody. Anyway, I would love to read those safety reports. Not only is sitting better on impact, but also cramping more people in the same machine, means more people (which trend to not comprehend the idea of leaving their luggage behind) share the exit routes.
These standing seats have been coming next year for the past decade, but they always failed safety tests. Planes need to be evacuated within a certain time frame, which does not work when the plane is too densely packed.
Did the stronger younger people try pushing the frail and children out of the way during these safety tests? Because I feel like the plane world empty quickly in that scenario
dont give them ideas!
Can’t they go Middle Earth on them and just create more doors?
I think we should relax rules on how quickly it is to evaluate a plane, and focus more on keeping the plane in the sky. (looking at you Boeing)
I’d love sleeping pods or bunk beds on a plane and accept the higher risk of not being able to get out quickly.
Cars and probably even train are infinitely more dangerous and we accept those risks every day.
There is no legitimate reason why trains or cars should be more dangerous modes of transport than flights. It is just that the lobbies for cars and capitalist train operations successfully desensitized everyone to it, so “deadly car crash” is just shrugged away. In the US we see similar attempts to make planes less safe and just accept the numbers of people killed in preventable events.
IDK about trains, but the problem with cars is that we let people operate them with minimal training and practically no oversight. You see shit on roads daily where if the driver was flying a plane, they wouldn’t even be let on as a passenger anymore ever.
I had a buddy from Northern Ireland take the Massachusetts driver’s test and he was blown away over how many things weren’t checked.
We could increase the training requirements and oversight. We could design road-networks in a way that makes speeding more difficult and enact stricter speed limits.
Whenever these measures are taking in an area they greatly reduce the number of people killed or seriously injured.
We could increase the training requirements and oversight.
I wish.
And who’s going to tell all those people that they are not going to drive again, ever? In pilot training, even showing signs of bravado or machismo is grounds for getting failed. The problem is that if you do that those people will go and vote you out, especially in this climate.
One of the main campaign promises of the idiot who got the most votes in the last Dutch election was to put the speed limits back to 130 kmh from the reduced 100 kmh on motorways. People like to be dumb.
BTW it would take minimal effort to enforce highway speed limits with cameras checking entry and exit times and distances. In some places with road tolls, it wouldn’t even need any more data collection. A single SQL query would return all those people doing 100 kmh over on the motorways. Wonder why outside of a few outliers, nobody does it.
One big reason why mass transit is and always will be (part of) the correct answer: Don’t have to fear taking away peoples’ privelege to drive if transit it there to get them around afterward.
Why not both?
If people actually pay for this it’s on them
If it catches on, these seats will be the base price and seated places will become premium. It will impact everyone that travels by plane.
Of course. How else are they going to advertise $10 tickets to Florida?
And so the enshitiffication of air travel continues!
Ryanair be Like
That’s majestic
There’s an idea. Flights that people can make standing, should be banned, except when there is a body of water between the destination.
Airlines: “You’re not gonna believe what clouds are made of…”
I declare clouds are not a body of water, merely a spirit of water.
Almost mist that joke
Oh, yes corporations. I guess body of Liquid water then. 😂
Edit: 2x2 Km minimum size.
Next step - put bicycle seats, reducent material for backs. Then add bicycle pedals for engines, to reduce fuel usage. None said anything about actually reducing ticket price by that, high prices stays forever.
None said anything about actually reducing ticket price by that, high prices stays forever.
Standard ticket if you generate at least 1KW, otherwise the price goes up if you generate less, with a fine for less then 50W generated during the flight
