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InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.net to Slop.@hexbear.netEnglish · 4 days ago

Matty being Matty.

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Matty being Matty.

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InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.net to Slop.@hexbear.netEnglish · 4 days ago
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  • ClimateStalin [they/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    No no he’s right. They should adopt policies based on popular public opinion. Things like:

    Ending support to Israel

    Universal healthcare

    Student loan forgiveness

    Vastly raising the minimum wage

    Launching Elon Musk into the sun

    Oh wait those weren’t the policies you meant were they

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      “accurately” is the weasel word he will use to argue that all of the policies he dislikes are actually unpopular and what the people want is more austerity.

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        Yep, exactly what he’s doing. The polls are fake, the policies that would improve the lives of most people aren’t popular actually. What a gross little weasel.

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          All those dang dark money progressive groups cooking the polls to say people would like free healthcare.

    • QuillcrestFalconer [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Launching Elon Musk into the sun

      Is there any poll about musk that phrases it like this? I doubt it

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        This would make me a single issue voter. Let’s send him.

        • ThermonuclearEgg [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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          This is such a waste of resources, but I’ll accept it if we gui-trans the rest of the billionaires

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            I think that’s a perfect compromise.

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    Cool let’s start with the public’s social and moral values on a ceasefire in Gaza.

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      No see when he says accurately what he means is “aligned with my worldview”

  • GoodGuyWithACat [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Comrade Matty adopting the fundamental maoist tactic of the mass line.

    • TrustedFeline [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      The difference is that a Maoist takes ideas from the public and forms a coherent political program from them. It’s a back and forth between the party and the masses, which results in a strong party that intelligently advocates for the people.

      Matty is just talking about polls for culture war issues. It’s chasing the political winds without putting any kind of thought into the project as a whole

      • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        The liberal mind doesn’t see a project. The project is just american capitalism, and we’ve got it already! The end of history is here, we just need to tweak a few tiny issues here and there and there and there and there

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          Exactly, ever since the cold war ended with liberalism’s complete victory, it’s become a fundamentally conservative project, with no vision or project beyond maintaining the status quo. It literally has nothing to offer, and can’t comprehend a future different than the 1990s.

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        Damn I was hoping Matty was so impressed by China’s large population that he adopted Mao Zedong Thought with reichburger characteristics.

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        I was literally unable to conceptualize the idea as anything other than maoist thought as you’ve described it. What the fuck else could you ever want from a political party???

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          Other unwashed masses: the political parties should listen to our demands

          Me, a very intelligent unwashed mass-particle: the political parties should not listen to my demands

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            Matty: the political parties should listen to only my demands, because I have all the best, most popular ideas, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

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              When he has 1 billion children they’ll be popular.

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        Maoism is when I find intellectual ways to not directly say “We need to start hating trans people more,” while ignoring calls to end genocide or institute free healthcare.

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          *Mattyism

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      First world maoism and the mass line is securing more imperial SSuperprofit$

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    You know liberal democracy is very democratic and free when an “underrated idea” is for the liberal democrats to do democracy.

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    This would be a marked improvement to Democratic party policy. Things like not doing genocide and having healthcare poll pretty well.

    The bar is in hell

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      We all know it is not these issues they’re going to poll people on, it’s going to be things like transphobia and racism

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      [edit] whoops wrong reply

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    They kind of do this already, but there’s a vital step 3 which is missing from the graphic:

    ©. Collect donor money and do whatever they tell you, fuck the voters.

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    So free healthcare, no student debt and Palestine liberated?

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    As a test of concept, lets do a poll about what should be done to Matt Yglesias.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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      (a) [redacted]
      (b) [redacted]
      © [redacted]
      (d) [redacted]

      I’m particularly fond of “c” myself. I don’t want to be too explicit so I’ll just say that I like it for comedic reasons.

    • Nakoichi [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      My vote involves the worlds largest sling shot and a giant ball of fusion reactions roughly 8 light minutes from earth.

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        straight into that MF, too

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      Rather than a billion Americans, there should be a billion pieces of matt yglesias

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      Put him in a room with all the accurate stats that show he’s wrong and don’t give him Internet access to complain about it

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    I too think the designated “progressive” party in a two-party system should resign to a purely reactive position and leave it to the right to actually try to change people’s beliefs.

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      A reactive position based on what’s popular with voters would be a significant improvement over current Dem strategy

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    Democratic Party suddenly becomes pro luigi-dance

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    the-democrat Ok, so we have the latest polling in…it seems everyone hates that we ‘don’t actually stand for anything’ and ‘are soulless robots contorting ourselves to polling data’. So make sure to incorporate that insight into your public personas going forward!

    • LoveWitch [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      We got great results for being bipartisan and reaching across the aisle. 40% of republicans said they’d like us better if we adopted republican policies so here’s a white paper.

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    me when i go and invent the mass line but just for when it aligns with my liberal idealism

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    Like a jellyfish riding a current.

    Sounds like blissful ignorance

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    It’s a good idea for people to be smart and do things that are correct.

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