Former president Donald Trump disseminated on social media on Friday an image of President Biden with his hands and feet tied and his mouth gagged, the latest example of the Republican candidate’s use of increasingly violent rhetoric and imagery this campaign season.
The image can be seen about halfway through a 20-second video that Trump posted on his Truth Social site. The post says it was recorded Thursday on Long Island, where Trump traveled this week to attend a wake for a recently killed police officer.
In the video, two trucks decorated with giant Trump flags and altered American flags are driving on a highway. On the tailgate door of one of the trucks is the image of Biden lying horizontally, bound and gagged.
Trump has a history of sharing and promoting violent images featuring his perceived enemies.
Biden has funded a genocide and oversees an government which completely sold out to corporate interests, the military industrial complex, and the prison industrial complex. They watched big pharma kill thousands in the opioid epidemic. They bailed out the banks after the great financial crisis, while the middle class was left to die.
Every congress member relies on corporate funding for campaigns. They can literally hold stock in the companies they regulate. Those corporations’ interests are completely opposite of the interests of the working class.
I couldn’t care less if some feckless oaf posts a picture of a US figurehead in such a position.
Oh ffs.
- You really don’t care that the guy who has empowered racists and bigots again, idealises Putin and is clearly going to try to overthrow the government a second time is now VERY clearly setting things up for the next coup?
- You don’t care that this is clearly a COMPONENT of overthrowing the election
- Trump hasn’t only made things bad in the US, he’s made thing bad INTERNATIONALLY
- Trump also is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in the US due to COVID
- The bank crisis was a problem, and internationally, they were all seemingly bailed out. It’s a whataboutism, but you know what helps the economy, paying taxes, and not lying to banks when getting a loan.
- They’ve also created a war against Trans people. And it is starting to spread to other countries. I have plenty of Gay, “Woke” and Trans people in my meetup groups. And lots of foreigners. And I honestly have a higher level of respect for them than other people.
- People like Tate have gained power by Trump’s actions.
- He’s already attacking our international relations expert / Ex PM (Kevin Rudd) here in Australia in advance. And Kevin Rudd was basically the guy who saved us during Covid because of his negotiating skills and set up AUKUS. Rudd is more qualified than Trump (and, was actually fairly well-liked when he was Prime Minister)
On the other hand
- Speaking of big pharma, sure, what about the guy who is negotiating the price of drug costs to lower them?
- What about the guys who pushed medical coverage for all (same as we have here in Australia).
- What about the guy whose own son was ALLOWED by the president to get prosecuted. If you need to see honor, there is likely no harder thing to watch than the president
- Also, if you’re referring to fentanyl, they are targeting now fentanyl now to try to attack it. they’re not “watching”. Fentanyl is a serious problem worldwide.
- What about the guy who vetoed legislation which would remove protections for some endangered species
- What about the guy who is actively saving people’s health (and generating jobs), by pushing EV’s.
- And he’s trying to make US safer by more Gun controls, which he is having trouble getting through.
The fact is, is Trump wins, things will go from ACCEPTABLE to REALLY BAD internationally. From where I’m watching here in Australia, Biden is doing plenty.
**AND DEFINITELY VOTE PEOPLE, FOR THE GOOD OF THE ENTIRE PLANET. ** Do not listen to these Right-Wing nutjobs who are relying on discouraging people from voting next election.
Unfortunately, facts don’t matter to most people. Humans are emotional first. You say a bunch of stuff that clashes with their beliefs and group membership, and you hit a fight or flight response. They’re not going to listen because losing group cohesion tells the brain you’re going to die alone in the desert.
Think about how you feel when someone contradicts something you’re emotionally invested in. Your favorite band sucks. Most people aren’t going to calmly evaluate the situation.
There’s a lot to respond to here. I’ll go point by point.
You really don’t care that the guy who has empowered racists and bigots again, idealises Putin and is clearly going to try to overthrow the government a second time is now VERY clearly setting things up for the next coup?
You don’t care that this is clearly a COMPONENT of overthrowing the election
There are so many issues to unpack here. Trump’s base is a reactionary, anti-establishment movement, clearly. This should be expected in a society that is ran by and for an elite class.
I’m online quite a bit and I haven’t noticed many Trumpers idolizing Putin, but I wouldn’t care if they did. It’s within their rights. The notion that Putin is trying to overthrow our government is unfounded at best. I have yet to see any credible evidence of Russian interference. This strikes me as a McCarthyism Revival that only seems to work on liberals.
As for the claim of not only a coup, but a second coup: I don’t think that a reasonable person believes that an angry mob storming a government building would have a snowballs chance in hell at actually carrying out a coup. This isn’t the 17th century. You don’t just take over a building today and expect to be able to control the country.
Trump hasn’t only made things bad in the US, he’s made thing bad INTERNATIONALLY
Yeah, I wasn’t a fan of what little foreign policy decisions he made. I did like that he pulled out of Syria, however.
Trump also is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in the US due to COVID
Okay? Biden is too. It feels like you’re under the impression that I support Trump, which I never claimed to.
Remember when he used to call it “China flu”, explicitly as a shoutout to racists? Every time he even says the word “China”, he says it in some weird way. His own staff has also been fairly open that he was making up stuff during covid on the spot (and it was obvious)
Oh, and he is a fan of China permanently electing someone though (ie, dictatorship).
Yeah, I agree that Trump is racist and a generic fascist strongman. This isn’t a revelation. I assume that the subtext is that Biden isn’t a fascist? We’d disagree on that. Biden and Trump certainly have different styles, but they both seem to embrace the deep state and the dictatorship of capital.
The bank crisis was a problem, and internationally, they were all seemingly bailed out. It’s a whataboutism, but you know what helps the economy and workers? Yes, the rich paying taxes, and not lying to banks when getting a loan.
I’m not even sure how you got to this thought process. “Whataboutism” has completely lost its meaning at this point. I don’t think you appreciate the gravity of our political situation. Politicians work for the ultra wealthy. We don’t live in a democracy. They aren’t going to do anything that would jeopardize the elites’ position in society.
They’ve also created a war against Trans people. And it is starting to spread to other countries. I have plenty of Gay, “Woke” and Trans people in my meetup groups. And lots of foreigners. And I honestly have a higher level of respect for them than other people. They’re really good people
I agree. I like the LGBT community as well.
People like Tate have gained power by Trump’s actions.
I it’s difficult to draw a line between Trump and Tate directly. I personally think it’s a larger reactionary movement in society, and Trump and Tate are symptoms of a larger societal sickness.
He’s already attacking our international relations expert / Ex PM (Kevin Rudd) here in Australia in advance. And Kevin Rudd was basically the guy who saved us during Covid because of his negotiating skills and set up AUKUS. Rudd is more qualified than Trump (and, was actually fairly well-liked when he was Prime Minister)
No comment here, I’m not familiar with this topic.
Speaking of big pharma, sure, what about the guy who is negotiating the price of drug costs to lower them?
Reducing drug prices, especially at the paltry scale Biden negotiated for, is a measly concession that doesn’t challenge the underlying power structure of Big Pharma’s racketeering. Drug production should be nationalized.
What about the guys who pushed medical coverage for all (same as we have here in Australia).
Ah, you’re Australian. I was thinking “this person must have been born yesterday” for many of my responses lol. I mean no offense. I can’t say that I know another country as well as you the US, even with the corrections I’ve offered.
Yeah, medical coverage for all should be table-stakes.
What about the guy whose own son was ALLOWED by the president to get prosecuted. If you need to see honor, there is likely no harder thing to watch as a parent. In contrast, Trump gave his family members positions of power.
I think this was about Hunter Biden? I honestly didn’t follow that story too closely. I recall it dealt with the Biden family’s racketeering, selling political favors, etc. The court system is highly politicized in this country.
Nepotism is everywhere in our society. We are a far cry from a meritocracy.
Also, if you’re referring to fentanyl, they are targeting now fentanyl now to try to attack it. they’re not “watching”. Fentanyl is a serious problem worldwide.
The opioid epidemic in the US predated the Fentanyl crisis. The opioid epidemic came from the systemic over-prescription of opioids to treat pain. The industry was aware of the dangers, but ignored them and profited as 500,000 Americans died of overdoses over a couple of decades. Doctors eventually stopped prescribing opioid which caused people to seek opioids off the street, which was far more dangerous, even before fentanyl made its way into the streets.
The great financial crisis can also be attributed to the rise in opioid use as many Americans lost their houses and livelihoods. It was an incredibly dark time for the working class.
The government didn’t do anything to help citizens and families who were suffering. The Sackler family owned the main drug company responsible for producing the prescription opioids that killed so many people. They also bribed doctors to prescribe the opioids at a massive scale.
The Sacklers got a slap on the wrist and that was it.
What about the guy who vetoed legislation which would remove protections for some endangered species
I don’t know about this, but it doesn’t sound significant, especially considering the amount of oil he allowed to be drilled in Alaska.
What about the guy who is actively saving people’s health (and generating jobs), by pushing EV’s.
EVs make sense in some climates, but they come with their own environmental and socioeconomic problems. The minerals used for batteries are extracted by slaves in Africa and the mining process isn’t good for the local ecosystem. I need to read more into this.
And he’s trying to make US safer by more Gun controls, which he is having trouble getting through.
IMO this is a case of treating a symptom instead of a root cause. Mass shootings are happening because our society is fragmenting. People are overworked, precarious, and have no access to healthcare or mental healthcare. Fixing healthcare and worker’s rights would alleviate the crisis. I’m not even a gun-owner, but I never want to be in a situation where our fascist government has guns and citizens can’t own guns.
He’s trying to eliminate tax subsidies for Gas and Oil companies, and instead spending that money on renewables
Allowing for substantial oil-drilling is a funny way of going about this.
He’s reduced inflation…
He reduced the rate of inflation. He still printed 30% of the US’ money supply, which has predictably led to significant inflation.
The fact is, is Trump wins, things will go from ACCEPTABLE to REALLY BAD internationally. From where I’m watching here in Australia, Biden is doing plenty.
“Acceptable” is subjective, I suppose. I don’t find our government acceptable in the slightest. Anything short of democracy is tyranny.
Please understand that our media companies (CNN, FOX, MSNBC, etc.) are state propaganda. Our elites fall into factions that struggle for political power, which is evident in the ostensible differences between, say, Fox and MSNBC, but both companies are merely propaganda mouthpieces for the ultra-wealthy.
**AND DEFINITELY VOTE PEOPLE, FOR THE GOOD OF THE ENTIRE PLANET. **
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Do not listen to these Right-Wing nutjobs who are relying on discouraging people from voting next election.
I hope you don’t think I’m right-wing at this point. Notice my username.
Consider: the US Government deserves to be overthrown.
Consider that doing so is like a toddler having a temper tantrum.
What are you doing to fix politics? You’re not starting a political party, you’re not doing anything meaningful, you’re not trying to get into office
You don’t even have any real suggestions on how to fix things or who should be in charge
Being a keyboard warrior isn’t helpful at all if you feel that way.
I do at least the bare minimum, and that is not voting for the parties of capital. That is a bar even liberals, the lowest of the low, can’t clear.
By… Religious facists?
I agree in the most basic way: get wall st power out of government. Buuuut the Republicans are not the way.
things will go from ACCEPTABLE
Most people aren’t (social?) fascists like you though and don’t find genocide acceptable
If you aren’t voting then you’re complicit in letting all the things you listed happening too.
Joe Biden has done more about these problems than you have. You don’t really care about any of these issues if you’re too lazy to vote.
See my second paragraph. The same applies for the executive branch elections. We can’t reform this. Direct action is the only solution.
Protests are only effective if the people in power are at least sympathetic to what you want.
You can vote and protest you know. Think of having Democrats in power as a buff in favor of whatever you’re protesting.
If you’re protesting and not voting, it’s probably a movement that’s represented best by that Kendall Jenner Pepsi commercial. Just a fun get-together with your friends where you pretend to be angry about something. All performative bullshit. So just have a Pepsi and stop pretending you care about anything LOL.
Gaslighting, like a true liberal.
Being lazy and ineffective like a true socialist.
Im convinced that all the “biden genocide” folks are the same russian troll farm folks hired to elect trump last time. Im also convinced this very post originated in st. petersburg. Prove me wrong.
Even given your exaggerations and lies, I’d ecstatically take four more years of this over four more hours of Trump.
Its literally the same picture except one is tinted blue and the other is tinted red.
I’d ecstatically take four more years of this
Watch out, you’re forgetting about the “crypto” part of cryptofascism
Why do you shitlibs always make vague accusations instead of specifically enumerating the lies you perceive? You’re all too cowardly to just say what you actually think because you know what you actually think is wet dogshit.
Huh? I didn’t make any accusations.
your exaggerations and lies
Own your dogassery with your whole chest
your exaggerations and lies
Coward
If you’re not even capable of basic reading comprehension what are you even doing here
If you believe the things mentioned in the original comment have taken place just in the past three years or are the sole responsibility of Joe Biden, I would encourage you to… well, let’s be honest, it’s probably too late for you. I wish I could help you but I’m not an educator and don’t have the time or inclination to re-educate the poorly educated.
But just to reiterate, strongly, I believe four more hours of Trump is literally worse than all the things mentioned that may or may not have to do with Joe Biden. You can disagree with that. I realize it’s controversial.
I didn’t think a Trump presidency was going to be that big of a deal at first but I was sorely wrong. It’s by no means a stretch to imagine another Trump presidency, given the tone of this country and congress and judges, will be the undoing of the United States. Our democracy has failed. The oath our legislators have taken is worthless. They have all (all - dems included) put party over country.
And I will say it’s not Trump whom I blame - it’s the voters. What I am absolutely unable to comprehend is how anyone could possibly ever consider Trump for President of the United States, let alone vote for him. It’s depressing that our culture has gotten to this point. Rather than educate and better ourselves, we choose stupidity. We choose freedom to be idiots ruled by fascism. We’re regressing while other countries are evolving.
Biden might not fix what’s broken but Trump very well make break everything it means to be American. So, for me, there’s no choice.
Genuinely, nobody gives a shit about your personal opinion on voting, not only has nobody asked you about it, it’s incredibly rote and predictable. You claimed there were lies and exaggerations - quit dodging and address your accusation with specifics.
Libs never engage with specifics. That’s why their favorite dodge is to claim something is “complicated” and “needs nuance”
Biden has funded a genocide and oversees an government which completely sold out to corporate interests, the military industrial complex, and the prison industrial complex. They watched big pharma kill thousands in the opioid epidemic. They bailed out the banks after the great financial crisis, while the middle class was left to die.
Every congress member relies on corporate funding for campaigns. They can literally hold stock in the companies they regulate. Those corporations’ interests are completely opposite of the interests of the working class.
I couldn’t care less if some feckless oaf posts a picture of a US figurehead in such a position.Nothing on this list is specific to Biden’s presidency.
Every (modern) US government / congress has funded Israel, the military industrial complex, the prison industrial complex. These have always been gigantic concerns and now you’re looking at this president and blaming him??
Current events aside, Trump was FAR more supportive of Israel than any other president this century, of not ever. I mean, you think shit’s bad now? Imagine if Trump were president during this war.
Trump + Israel
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/100-times-president-trump-supported-israel/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50468025Trump + Military Industrial complex
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/donald-trump-goes-all-in-for-the-military-industrial-complex/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewkorda/2020/09/10/trump-is-a-hypocrite-but-hes-right-about-the-military-industrial-complex/?sh=51b11e7d78da https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/09/trump-military-industrial-complex-eisenhower-pentagon-losers-suckers.htmlBiden + Military Industrial complex
There’s two wars going on right now so of course the current president is asking congress to appropriate more money towards those causes.Trump + Prison industrial complex
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/trumps-first-year-has-been-private-prison-industrys-bestBiden + Prison industrial complex
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/biden-s-order-terminates-federal-private-prison-contracts-here-s-n1255776“They” is used regarding the opioid criss and the 2008 financial crisis which obviously is not specific to Biden or his presidency.
Both Biden and Trump have taken positive steps towards solving the opioid crisis.
Biden + opioid crisis
https://www.whitehouse.gov/ondcp/briefing-room/2021/11/17/fact-sheet-actions-the-biden-harris-administration-has-taken-to-address-addiction-and-the-overdose-epidemic/
https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2022/05/19/biden-administration-announces-15-billion-funding-opportunity-state-opioid-response-grant-program.htmlTrump + opioid crisis
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32113-9/fulltext https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-signs-sweeping-opioid-bill-vow-end-scourge-drug-addiction-n923976It was during the Obama administration that the economy was essentially saved so I’m not sure what this has to do with Biden’s presidency. The “middle class” has literally been dying since the early 1970s when productivity and wages started to diverge. The death of the middle class sits firmly on the shoulders of Republicans who oppose federal minimum wages and more regulations on Wall Street, corporations, and consumer protections. So, to blame Biden’s presidency on the death of the middle class is just not based in reality at all.
Trump + Middle class
https://apnews.com/article/bbd344ade2b74e17a172ac5a371ba756 https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-covid-response-economy-jobs-taxes-inequality-1080345/Biden + Middle Class
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/11/biden-economics-middle-class-workers-heather-cox-richardson https://www.whitehouse.gov/build-back-better/The list then goes on to mention congressional election campaigns and buying stocks which quite obviously has nothing to do with Biden or any president ever. FWIW, here’s a bipartisan bill banning stock trades
https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/npr/2023/07/20/1188869588/new-bill-would-fine-congress-members-for-trading-stocks-and-owning-blind-trusts/
https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/senators-propose-banning-stock-trades-us-congress-president-2023-07-25/So, yeah for me, I’m more concerned about a candidate running for president posting an image of a current president bound up. That tells me that this person is not fit to be the leader of the country where I reside. I have no problem with Joes and Janes doing it (I’m 100% in support of this) but I personally hold my presidential candidates to a higher moral value than the rest of the public. That also includes holding the current president and congressional leaders to account when they don’t voice their condemnation of mass civilian casualties. However, given the two choices we’ve got, frustratingly, there’s not much of a choice.
shut the fuck up genocide lover
How are they lying?
Yes the fuck you did
@[email protected] tagline pls
kinky
At least post the picture
It’s pretty easy to find on any image search.
Well hes not gagged. So maybe theres an even worse one.
Is that actually painted on someone’s truck? I kinda hope so because it’s so shoddy. The perspective doesn’t even line up for the truck bed.
Its a wrap. And they’re real. Shouldnt be allowed but here we are. Had anyone had something like this with bush bound and gagged after 2001 they wouldve been arrested and tried in a heartbeat.
It’s a decal that can be bought for like $50. There are a bunch of different kinds of them, some with women tied up, deer, various politicians, Sasquatch, Lion’s etc. It’s the most mundane shit which is why liberals are clutching their pearls over it.
I’ve seen people get pulled over for a fake hand holding the tailgate edge around Halloween. Tied up people should absolutely get you pulled over and checked on a regular basis just because you don’t want to be the guy that missed a potential kidnapping.
Guess which side the fascist cops are on? The truck owner’s likely a family member of the cop
I never thought I’d see the claim that pretending to have a woman tied up in the back of your truck is some “mundane shit”.
Same energy as standing at airport security yelling “I have a gun” and pulling out a replica.
He doesn’t appear to be gagged in this pic. Maybe they’re referring to a different violent image
I like how even in this, they’re shitty at binding someone. They can’t even pretend to do things correctly.
Haha, that’s a good point. This is the January 6th gallows all over again… These people are the edgy punisher logo manifest.
All those stupid thin blue line flags, too… Who the fuck believes that lie after Uvalde?
All you have to do is Google “Biden Tailgate Wrap”. There are many variations for sale all over the internet. $50 to $70.
Trump deserves some blame for sharing it, but the real blame needs to be on the people producing and using it.
Fortunately in America such images are protected speech even if liberals and fascists, but I repeat myself get upset about them. So any “blame” is literally just the speaker virtue signaling and isn’t something that needs to be considered beyond a simple throw away comment plus a “lol.”
Hmmm, people producing it deserve blame, but it’s not like you or me sharing a pic, this is a candidate for president of the United States posting it about his political rival. I think that’s a worse offense, no matter how common they might be.
His political rival and the current president.
I don’t like saying this but I will forgo any of my liberal socialist ideals if Biden wants to do whatever it takes to get votes from republicans.
I’m the dumbest person on this website so I’ll bite. The only way to gain votes from a group is to align with their ideology. I know you are aware of this and you want him to be more right wing, but that’s the issue. Biden shifting right would eliminate any chance whatsoever of the policies you claim to want. It would mean more support to Israel and more support of genocide. It would mean more deportations and stronger anti-immigration stances. It would mean less support of women’s rights. It would mean being more hostile to queer people. It would be difficult to distinguish from a Republican presidency, but at least his rhetoric is nicer. Also, if a genocide supporting, union busting president that oversaw the banning of abortion, increased persecution of queer people, devasting proxy wars, a series of infrastructure disasters, a trillion dollar military budget and literal genocide is the best president of your lifetime, perhaps your American “democracy” isn’t as noble as you think.
Yes. That’s literally the point I’ve made. These are all better options than Trump. I don’t know why this is so difficult for people to grasp.
And come on, “genocide” is a strong specific word and not what’s happening in Gaza. There are mass casualties in an unjust attack on civilians. Just because something is indefensible and heinous does not at all mean it’s literal genocide. There’s an attack on locations where terrorists are presumed to be hiding. I’m not going to defend it but I’m not an Israeli who just suffered the worse attack on my country ever with my family held hostage underneath schools and hospitals.
I’m not supporting genocide nor am I supporting this war. I am suggesting that a slightly more right leaning democratic president is preferable over Donald fucking Trump.
This should not by any means be a controversial opinion outside the most braindead of cultists. How anyone could possibly suggest that Donald Trump is better than literally anyone else is absolutely not within my ability to comprehend. I would prefer someone like Warren or AOC but I would sooner vote for Desantis over Trump.
It’s literal genocide. Israel is openly trying to rid Gaza of Palestinians by bombs and starvation. Calling it anything other than genocide is implicit support for the the apartheid state of Israel. October 7th was nothing compared to the suffering of Palestinians. Also why is Trump better than Desantis? Desantis has had some of the most violent policies and actions against trans people in the nation. To me it sounds like your allegiance is based not on ideology but on rhetoric.
Also, from the river to the sea, may Palestine be free.
Israel is currently bombing Gaza to get hostages back.
You’re right and I’m thankful that people are finally seeing how horribly the Palestinians have been treated for generations. The Palestinians and the US should be helping Israel oust Hamas.
I said Destantis was better than Trump. He’s the second worst possible candidate I can imagine.The hostages are dead and Israel killed (many of) them. Even if they weren’t, 35,000 and 2 million displaced in exchange for around a few hundred is absurdly disproportionate. Hamas has offered to return the hostages in exchange for a ceasefire but Israel has refused. It’s not about the hostages, it’s about driving the Palestinians out. The hostages are a cheap propaganda trick for people like you. Secondly, if Israel really wanted to get the hostages back, they wouldn’t treat their hostages as casualties, they wouldn’t carpet bomb Gaza and they wouldn’t kill hostages after they wave white flags. Israel knows the route to get their hostages back, they just don’t care. Even if Israel was truly doing this for the hostages, that would not make anything they are doing any better. All Palestinian violence against aggressors is self defense.
Cool.
Still, I’m voting for Biden over the guy who’s explicitly intent on overthrowing the US government. It’s not a choice I like but it’s the only logical one we have. I will stand beside you in opposition to this war but that does not mean I’m going to vote to obliterate democracy.
You’re not opposing the war lmao, you’re standing by it’s biggest proponent and buying Israeli propaganda like it’s half off. You’re a clown.
I will stand beside you in opposition to this war
You’re a lib. You believe in nothing but your own comfort
lmao if you can excuse genocide you definitely don’t give a shit about “democracy”…which this country doesn’t even have in the first place
oh God you are a being of pure racist imperialism
Oh also I wish you a very
If things don’t turn around for him, he might have to lower himself to try to get votes from non-Republicans.
the horror
liberal socialist
When you totally know what words mean
When you don’t https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_socialism
Were you born this fucking stupid or is it a conscious daily choice to fail yourself and everyone around you?
This is just regular liberalism.
Just complete gibberish, socialism’s goal is the abolishment of capitalist property relations and worker ownership of the means of production
Liberalism in 99% of its political and theoretical formulations absolutely does not want those things, you’re the definition of an opportunist and utopian idealist, further proved by the fact you’re willing to sacrifice this make-believe ideology of yours in the hope of courting fascists
That’s literally just regular liberalism but ‘there should be some co-ops!’ I.e., it’s just liberalism.
Oh no! Not wikipedia
Read a book lib
but I will forgo any of my liberal socialist ideals
In support of him or against him?
if Biden wants to do whatever it takes to get votes from republicans.
Ok, monkey’s paw granted… he does a peace negotiation with Russia on Ukraine and then promptly declares a 2nd war, now on Mexico, Fentanyl, China, Venezuela, and Cuba, because why not?
I swear, y’all dems practice democratic centralism, don’t ye? Freedom of thought, unity in action…
I don’t know why you’ve thrown fentanyl in there. Doesn’t everyone want to declare war on that? Otherwise, do republicans want war with these countries so much that they’d vote for Biden if he declared war with them (which a president is technically unable to do)?
Doesn’t everyone want to declare war on that?
Nobody with more than a handful of braincells thinks any drug war is a good idea, what the fuck is wrong with you
Here I thought anyone with a handful of brain cells was opposed to people dying from using tainted illicit drugs. I apologize for my assumption.
Which drug wars were successful, genius?
Depends on your definition of success. If you mean at removing drugs from wide availability, none. If you define success as making the prison industrial complex obscenely rich by locking away a new class of slaves and absolutely fucking ruining their lives, all of them.
Perhaps substances would be less tainted if we didn’t have the drug war policies?
no analysis, only war
As I said before, fentanyl is a blurry line…
fentanyl actually has broader medical use, specifically as a legal anesthetic and palliative care, so be wary when fishing the waters for fighting the war against the drugs…
Why yes most everyone is. Which is why anyone with a handful of braincells are against war on drugs style policies. Because they do not work and produce far worse outcomes for society than the drugs themselves.
if he declared war with them (which a president is technically unable to do)
This would be a worthwhile comment in 1950. Today, it just looks like you are clinging to what your high school civics class taught you like it has any bearing on the world.
I don’t know why you’ve thrown fentanyl in there. Doesn’t everyone want to declare war on that?
Idk, I mean it’s something every republican detests… even if they know how the first war on drugs’s consequences… (yk, fentanyl actually has broader medical use, specifically as a legal anesthetic and palliative care, so be wary when fishing the waters with it)
Otherwise, do republicans want war with these countries so much that they’d vote for Biden if he declared war with them (which a president is technically unable to do)?
Yaasss, btw, I guess you haven’t heard of hyperbole…
To add upon this, I’ve heard congress is the only power that can declare war… and, I mean, considering Republican mindset… you can easily get a bi-partisan approval for declaring war on one of those countries
Note: I guess you see me as a bad-faith arguer?
That’s just polite fascism though? Oh! You are a liberal, got it.
Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds
Translation: Genocide is OK with me, as long as I’m not the recipient of it.
Curious what liberal socialist ideals your talking about forgoing here
The federal government supporting equity.
Well if it makes you feel any better, not forgoing idealism in the face of reality would help trump win. So the realism of voting for biden and getting him to win is the best possible outcome, as far as getting as close to your ideals as possible is concerned.
please die
If I’m to assume you are a grown adult, the way you argue with someone you label as a “genocide lover” is to wish death upon them?
See folks, this is the problem with cultists. They have no sense of reality. They live solely in their bubbles.
I’ll have you know that I am not a one-issue voter. While I’ve always had concerns over Israel’s treatment of Palestine and viewed Netanyahu as a hateful warmonger, I understand there are complex issues on the other side of the world which I have limited knowledge of based on reporting I seek out and trust. Which is to say, very few realities are black and white. You can be opposed to genocide and be in favor of retrieving hostages and be opposed to zionism while also supporting a government and military that stands in the way of total disaster and even greater loss of life in the region.
The world is complex. I’m sure your family or your job or your neighborhood is complex. I’m sure people have made assumptions about you and your life without proper context. Maybe someone hates you for a thing you did (granted, not genocide) but they don’t know all the good things you’ve done or how much love is in your heart.
I can choose to re-elect a not-perfect US President that isn’t someone who’s running on a campaign to do all he can to dismantle the foundation of the country I’m a citizen of. I’m not the biggest fan of this country but we do at least have a president who’s open to listening to the people. Do you think DT would listen and change his mind on anything that doesn’t empower him?
That’s a lot of words to say you’re a genocide supporter
Let me say this more simply for you son, Biden’s support of this war is preferable of Trump’s support of this war.
If you’re at all interested in saving as many lives as possible and setting a plan for peace, I would encourage you to vote for Biden. If all you care about is Israel, then go ahead and vote for Trump.
You’re disgusting you know that, let me say this more simply for you son, any vote for Biden is explicit support for genocide, end of story
There’s no set of tortured apologetics that will wash off the blood, you better straighten yourself out motherfucker, cause you’re a fascist and you don’t even know it
I’m interested in saving as many innocent live as possible, which doesn’t include those of genocide supporting libs like you
This isn’t a game for us, this isn’t just politics for us, we fucking hate you because you’re acting like an inhuman monster devoid of any empathy as you support the ongoing mass starvation of children
You are absolutely seeing this as a game and not seeing the whole picture. If you weren’t you’d see that you can work to compel Biden to stop supporting this war while also acknowledging that Trump is an even greater supporter of Israel and threat to Palestine.
You’re the one treating it like a game because you think you can trade off on the lives of Palestinian children while simultaneously washing your hands of them.
you can work to compel Biden to stop supporting this war
That’s why groups are saying they won’t vote for Biden dumbass - to compel him to stop supporting this genocide
Please die faster
Netanyahu
There it is folks, this clown wants whitewash decades of colonialism and fascism so he can blame one bad guy just like he does with
and 
Nailed it! Every ill in the world for libs is always pinned on the one bad actor. The US or Isreal stay innocent in their minds, even though both are founded on settler colonialism and genocide
I am a one-issue voter, is the thing: I will not vote for a genocidal CRACKER. If the other genocidal CRACKERS that comprise this nation continue failing to find whatever morals they claimed to espouse all those years they were teaching me about the Holocaust, then they deserve whatever happens to them afterwards. These are not my peers, my countrymen, nor anyone I consider worth saving. You deserve to watch the erosion of all your ancestors’ ill-gotten gains.
It’s safe to assume then that you’re not voting for Trump. That’s fine by me.
- no one here is voting for Trump you deranged lib
I would also not be opposed to Biden testing his own Presidential Immunity™ on Trump and his cronies, and I hate that I feel that way.
Heck, he could shoot a guy on 5th avenue and get away with it. A specific guy
No offense, but
violent images
I hate to be the one to tell you this, Seattle Times, but this is fetish content.
What are they doin over there 😳
Becoming full-blown fascists
Who’s stopping them? No one, really
Not sure if horny or coup
Putting the erection in insurrection
all the way in.
i went and looked for the image … to uh… confirm if true or not
it’s just trump showing a truck parade and one of the trucks has it as a large sticker/decal
That man has the attention span of a goldfish, probably didn’t even watch it to that point, just saw the Trump flags and then the ego forced a repost
‘Just’
normalising this is part of the problem. It isn’t ‘just’ a video of two trucks.
It’s literally just a video of two trucks? Do you notice anything out of the ordinary with them? Because most of us aren’t experts on trucks, and frankly it’s extremely uncivil to gatekeep your knowledge.
It’s “just” a video of two trucks, given what the headline claimed.
When I first read the headline, I figured the image would be a kinda jank AI generated picture of Biden bound and gagged. Like… The headline makes it seem like that’s the focus of Trumps post.
But it isn’t. The focus of the image are the trucks adorned with Trump memorabilia. That’s the thing he cares about in this case. The presence of the Chud Tailgate Murder Fantasy is incidental.
And for that matter, what do you mean “normalizing”? This shit is already normal. That’s the problem.
The presence of the Chud Tailgate Murder Fantasy is incidental.
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i edited my comment to better fit what you said please lmk if there’s any other problems with it so i can edit those too
thank you for the effort you provide to really fight the good fight i couldn’t do this without you thank you for helping me i can’t belive i normalized it thank you you helped me thank you
It is normal. Trump supporters have been like this since 2016. Right wing cranks existed way before that.
Right, this shit has already been normalized. We ought to be concerned with how to deal with it.
Oh noes! What will the parliamentarian think!
For starters, probably that you are a moron.
Ummm ackshully it doesn’t say that in the parmesantarian’s Big Book Of Fucking Over American People so three pinocchios for you!!!one
What do you mean?
Ah, projection
I saw one in my hometown last summer. It’s not new or exciting. Some people got together and decided Truck nuts weren’t trashy enough
Kinky
Now we know what Big Don is into.
Let’s be honest, he’s never kept his desires private.
IDK, I thought he was only into 20-30yo women, so the 80yo man was a bit of a surprise.
20? Too old
gagged huh? that says something, coming from a man who routinely gets gag orders.
the latest example of the Republican candidate’s use of increasingly violent rhetoric and imagery this campaign season.
Unlike Biden’s non-violent rhetoric of “Israel has every right to defend itself” when people confront him with the fact he’s actively funding a genocide.
You don’t get it it’s cool when blue backs violence because theyre only backing violence on racial grounds instead of sex/gender expression (so far)
So is that not a threat against the president of the united states?
Not when a white male conservative does it. It’s “just kidding” when they do it.
I didn’t know Kathy Griffin was a man. Or did it not count when Trump?
We’re trying to be outraged here and fit this into the narrative. You shall be down voted for any facts that force us to face the fact that the reason for our outrage is not rooted in reality.
Anyone else that did this would get visited by very angry men in dark suits.
I suppose if it’s ok for Trump to do, then I could post an image of Trump bound and gagged?
The post is actually about in someone else doing it. It even seems like it is not rare
Actually, anyone should be allowed to do so and id like to think that you could. The fact that Trump does though is problematic.
Kathy Griffin and at least a couple of art galleries have depicted Trump decapitations, during his presidency. They all got some shit publicly because of it (mostly upset right wingers) but no one was arrested or subjected to anything by the government, no matter how much said angry right wingers asked.
This is just the party flipped version of the same sort of thing. Watching just how many people start pearl clutching at only one of these is kinda amusing.
I think it’s one thing for a private citizen to do this, but it would be another thing for a sitting/former president running for election to do the same
Check the original video he posted. He literally filmed some dick-replacement giant pickups covered in pro-police, pro-Trump, anti-Biden shit, and one of them had this commercially available tailgate decal on it of Biden bound and gagged.
It’s in bad taste, sure but it’s not something you can honestly treat the way the media is treating this. It’s click bait.
Its not the same sort of thing. Kathy whoever the fuck doesn’t have friends who put people in oil drums, and AFAIK has never attempted a fascist coup.
If you wanted to hang a bloody hyper realistic effigy of Jojo burning in a tree, your statement would be true (except for the tree. be nicer to trees)
lol anyone who doesn’t think a tailgate piece that makes it look like you got the president tied up in the bed of your truck is funny sucks.
Truck nuts are higher quality and less trashy. And they are quite trashy.
Nominally agree, but a president is too broad to be much of a statement. Go for a particular congressman and the joke will land.
Nah, president has broader recognition
