Iran is shitty and repressive and fucking awful to their people
But geopolitically they’re a pretty good neighbor. The only person who ever got them to be aggressive was that guy, famous romance novelist, forget his name.
Like the Austrian dude who keeps women in his basement but always pays his share and half of yours when the fence gets old
Iran should not have been bombed by this administration. But they’re the only force in the region worse than the Saudis for funding proxies and shipping paramilitaries to attack their enemies.
I’ll admit that I’m not very clear on what their peoxies actually do? Setting aside the obvious Assad (which, yeah youre right, that’s sure as hell not peaceful) what are they doing with those people?
What do you mean “what are they doing with those people”?
They support their catspaws militarily. Training, supplies, and direct action - as the IRGC in particular has been caught time and time again fighting directly in service to various Iranian-linked militias in conflict zones, including Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen, and Afghanistan.
No like, what are those militias actually doing after getting Iranian training and supplies? I mean Iraq for example isn’t exactly in active conflict right?
No like, what are those militias actually doing after getting Iranian training and supplies?
Fighting. Killing. Torturing. Intimidating their enemies and local governments. What militias and other paramilitaries in conflict zones generally do. They aren’t sitting around, polishing their rifles and fetching cats from trees, if that’s what you’re thinking.
I mean Iraq for example isn’t exactly in active conflict right?
Hundreds still die in ongoing sectarian conflict in Iraq every year, and Iranian-backed militias (most of which were supported and became powerful by Iran’s influence in the past two decades, not recently) muscling in by forces of arms is a major political issue.
Most of the Middle East outside of North Africa. Lebanon, Jordan, the Saudis et co, Syria now, hot-cold relationship with Iraq. Israel, obviously; but less obviously, also Fatah. Ukraine, bizarrely enough, which has a dozen IRGC kills to their military’s name.
So smaller list than the Zionist terrorists. Who we arm.
Israel’s current list of enemies is, what? Iran, Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, and the Houthis? Egypt and the Saudis et co are anything but enemies of Israel at present. Iraq desperately wants to stay out of the whole mess even as both sides trade missiles over Iraqi airspace.
Israel is committing genocide, which is a bit of a bigger deal than ‘merely’ supporting genocides and destabilizing governments for lunatic theocratic reasons. If you’re going to contrast Israel negatively with Iran, use that, not the comparable length of their list of enemies.
As I said to the other guy, that is literally not what the word peaceful means. You can be tyrannical and still peaceful, especially since the context obviously implies they’re talking about Iranian foreign policy.
I mean otherwise you could make similar claims about the US. Such a peaceful country! It wasn’t them overthrowing the legitimately elected governments, but local resistance groups! Who trained and armed them? How does this relate to the conversation?
You should put something between the link and the semicolon, otherwise it breaks the link. That aside, while that is certainly not very peaceful, it strikes me as not relevant to the context of countries lobbing bombs at each other.
You should put something between the link and the semicolon, otherwise it breaks the link.
It works both on Voyager and the web client for me
That aside, while that is certainly not very peaceful, it strikes me as not relevant to the context of countries lobbing bombs at each other.
It isn’t relevant to the bombing really, and if you go back in the discussion you’ll see that I stated this (edit: or rather that I’m against bombing Iran). This was only in response to the implication that Iran is peaceful.
If you think so… I never said it is, this was purely objecting to the statement that Iran is a peaceful country. It’s a repressive regime that finances insurgent groups to put it lightly. Does that justify the attack that just happened? No. But still doesn’t make Iran peaceful
I mean otherwise [from context: saying that financing terror groups is a thing peaceful countries do] you could make similar claims about the US. Such a peaceful country! It wasn’t them overthrowing the legitimately elected governments, but local resistance groups! Who trained and armed them? How does this relate to the conversation?
Here, what Iran does is applied to the US in an ironic manner, because I, the writer, assume that nobody thinks the US is a peaceful country, because I don’t think so either, hence calling them out though indirectly; but again nobody called them peaceful (rightfully so), so there was no need to spell it out, I assumed.
I just checked out of interest and in fact second marriage have a higher divorce rate, I’d have thought it’s the other way round, like people know what they actually want from a spouse, but interestingly, it’s the other way around by a significant margin.
Which peaceful country are you talking about?
I’m totally against the bombing, but let’s not pretend or imply Iran is peaceful.
Iran is shitty and repressive and fucking awful to their people
But geopolitically they’re a pretty good neighbor. The only person who ever got them to be aggressive was that guy, famous romance novelist, forget his name.
Like the Austrian dude who keeps women in his basement but always pays his share and half of yours when the fence gets old
Fucking what.
Iran should not have been bombed by this administration. But they’re the only force in the region worse than the Saudis for funding proxies and shipping paramilitaries to attack their enemies.
I’ll admit that I’m not very clear on what their peoxies actually do? Setting aside the obvious Assad (which, yeah youre right, that’s sure as hell not peaceful) what are they doing with those people?
What do you mean “what are they doing with those people”?
They support their catspaws militarily. Training, supplies, and direct action - as the IRGC in particular has been caught time and time again fighting directly in service to various Iranian-linked militias in conflict zones, including Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen, and Afghanistan.
No like, what are those militias actually doing after getting Iranian training and supplies? I mean Iraq for example isn’t exactly in active conflict right?
Fighting. Killing. Torturing. Intimidating their enemies and local governments. What militias and other paramilitaries in conflict zones generally do. They aren’t sitting around, polishing their rifles and fetching cats from trees, if that’s what you’re thinking.
Hundreds still die in ongoing sectarian conflict in Iraq every year, and Iranian-backed militias (most of which were supported and became powerful by Iran’s influence in the past two decades, not recently) muscling in by forces of arms is a major political issue.
Fair enough. I guess I take the stuff about Iran being peaceful back.
Oh who are their enemies?
Most of the Middle East outside of North Africa. Lebanon, Jordan, the Saudis et co, Syria now, hot-cold relationship with Iraq. Israel, obviously; but less obviously, also Fatah. Ukraine, bizarrely enough, which has a dozen IRGC kills to their military’s name.
So smaller list than the Zionist terrorists. Who we arm.
Israel’s current list of enemies is, what? Iran, Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, and the Houthis? Egypt and the Saudis et co are anything but enemies of Israel at present. Iraq desperately wants to stay out of the whole mess even as both sides trade missiles over Iraqi airspace.
Israel is committing genocide, which is a bit of a bigger deal than ‘merely’ supporting genocides and destabilizing governments for lunatic theocratic reasons. If you’re going to contrast Israel negatively with Iran, use that, not the comparable length of their list of enemies.
Theyre making surveillance tools that harm all the free peoples of
middleearth.I mean Iran is, for the most part, pretty peaceful. They pretty much only attack when attacked.
What the ever-loving fuck.
Yeah like when women aren’t wearing headscarves
As I said to the other guy, that is literally not what the word peaceful means. You can be tyrannical and still peaceful, especially since the context obviously implies they’re talking about Iranian foreign policy.
Iran’s foreign policy isn’t peaceful either, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_diplomat_terror_plot_trial; just because they don’t operate in the open doesn’t mean it’s peaceful.
I mean otherwise you could make similar claims about the US. Such a peaceful country! It wasn’t them overthrowing the legitimately elected governments, but local resistance groups! Who trained and armed them? How does this relate to the conversation?
Weird how nobody notices this until it’s useful to criticize someone the Americans want war with.
Then they forget once the war starts in earnest and never fix the problem
You should put something between the link and the semicolon, otherwise it breaks the link. That aside, while that is certainly not very peaceful, it strikes me as not relevant to the context of countries lobbing bombs at each other.
It works both on Voyager and the web client for me
It isn’t relevant to the bombing really, and if you go back in the discussion you’ll see that I stated this (edit: or rather that I’m against bombing Iran). This was only in response to the implication that Iran is peaceful.
Yes this is all to protect the women of Iran.
If you think so… I never said it is, this was purely objecting to the statement that Iran is a peaceful country. It’s a repressive regime that finances insurgent groups to put it lightly. Does that justify the attack that just happened? No. But still doesn’t make Iran peaceful
Weird how you only talk about the violence and terrorism of one side here
I have also accused the US of it in this very thread, but in order to understand it, you’d need reading comprehension skills
Also nobody has called “the other side” peaceful, so there’s no need for a rebuttal
Scrolled down pretty far, didn’t see. Still don’t.
You already replied to it, here the text again:
Here, what Iran does is applied to the US in an ironic manner, because I, the writer, assume that nobody thinks the US is a peaceful country, because I don’t think so either, hence calling them out though indirectly; but again nobody called them peaceful (rightfully so), so there was no need to spell it out, I assumed.
maybe if we overthrow their government for oil money–again–they’ll be more peaceful?
It’s a recipe for success!
like my second marriage! it cant fail twice i tells ya
I just checked out of interest and in fact second marriage have a higher divorce rate, I’d have thought it’s the other way round, like people know what they actually want from a spouse, but interestingly, it’s the other way around by a significant margin.
dang thats depressing actually. Some people do treat marriage like their video games and speed run them though.