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For your memes we have [email protected] if you like sciency posts mander.xyz has some excellent communities (communities=subreddits) like [email protected] and [email protected] and for a meme science combo theres always the fantastic [email protected]
You can also drop a shit(post) off at [email protected] or hang out at [email protected] (though you do have to post before you leave that one!)
There’s much more around as well!
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Weird post.
I was on Lemmy when lemmy.ml was the biggest server and I’m glad that despite the biggest server being tankie nominated Lemmy could grow into what it is today.
Also, it defaults to “Active” view, which is the least updated. You can set your posts to “Hot” and then switch between “Top 6 Hours” and “Top 12 Hours” to get the most of your experience here. It will seem dead with the default.
I don’t know why I would block Lemmy.ml when it’s more entertaining to get banned from their communities one by one!
One by one? Dessalines blanket bans you from everything if you break one of their unwritten rules. Relatedly, just write out your rules. Stop trying to be sneaky-deeky. It’s ridiculous, having ultra secret rules like some sort of boy’s club. Be up front about it. It surely doesn’t take long to write “avoid questioning China or Russia” in the sidebar
For awhile I thought that there were stacks of people on lemmy.world constantly complaining about tankies. But now I’m starting to realise that most of the posts are from this one dude, cm0002. Frankly, it’s a little bit weird.
Yeah its pretty pathetic.
Watching him ‘help’ the fediverse grow by constantly trying to divide and ostracise people would be ironic if it wasn’t so obviously dumb
This whole topic has been the crusade of like two or three people.
The result is mostly just a fourth person being able to post shit like breibart without harassment.
Lemmy is still rather small.
Wait, what’s wrong with Hexbear? I’m new to Lemmy and read the code of conduct and TOS of Hexbear and it just seems like they’re leftist? I was thinking about registering there 😅
Nobody on hexbear is sane. One of the worst Lemmy instances. Many other instances already defederated from it and I can honestly just advice you to not interact with them.
If anyone from hexbear insults you, it’s a good thing. That means you’re still human.
I’m new, trying to get a hold of the lingo, is instance like, reference to the server they usually post through? Or like, lemmys equivalent to a sub reddit? What does it mean to defedrate?
reference to the server they usually post through
Roughly, yes. Imagine there isn’t just one reddit, but multiple reddits, all with their own users, sub-reddits and eventually even rules. Now all these multiple reddits can “talk” to each other. That’s why I’m on lemmy.zip and I can see a post someone hast posted on lemm.ee - that is federation. Saved on different servers, but looks like one coherent feed.
Defederation means that an admin of an instance excludes one or more instances from communicating with his. I’m not 100% sure what every implication is, but roughly, the instances can’t communicate with each other, so if lemmy.world defederates from lemmy.zip, for example, we could not have this conversation right now. You also would not see any posts from lemmy.zip and I would not see any from lemmy.world
They are not actually left, they are authoritarian communists and will defend Chinas CCP and Putin as well as spread the propaganda/misinfo out of there. And if you dare post anything critical of them, no matter how many good sources you give or how factual it is they’ll write it off as “CIA propaganda”, remove it and ban you under their catch-all “Rule 1: Bigotry”
If you want to see more check out [email protected]
If you criticize the chinese communist party you will be labled a sinophobe on Hexbear.
I blocked hexbear after getting in too many stupid arguments with their users. The final straw was an argument where they said “owning a personal washer, dryer and vacuum isn’t communist enough” and I just gave up and blocked the bunch. Lot less grief in my feed after that.
Lemmy can be a bit of a culture shock when you come from Reddit. If someone calls you a libtard on Reddit, it’s because they think you’re a leftist. If someone calls you one on Lemmy, it’s because they think you’re too far to the right of them.
Sooo are the users over at Hexbear considered libtards over here on Lemmy?
No, the opposite; They’re so far left that leftists aren’t left enough.
Hexbear users are generally more vocal with their opinions and call people out for problematic opinions. Because not everyone shares Hexbear users’ opinions it can come across as very aggressive. My instance has been defederated with them for a while so it’s hard to say exactly what it is like now, but that’s the gist.
I had plenty of positive interactions with them too and enjoyed their communities. It’s easier to notice the one really unenjoyable interaction with someone than the dozens of somewhat positive ones though.
It’s a shame that many instancss defederated with Hexbear and vice-versa… definitely makes having alt accounts necessary so users can get the most out of Lemmy
Man you’re getting worse than the hexbear edgelords who just shit on the liberals all day, except at least they’re yelling at people in power and not some extremely marginal leftists who would be shot before they could ever take a seat in politics.
A good rule of politics is if someone or an ideology that you don’t like and they have no power or connection to power just ignore them, especially if there on your side for 90% of actual relevant issues. Not theoretical issues that may pop up after the revolution that may never come.
A good rule of politics is if someone or an ideology that you don’t like and they have no power or connection to power just ignore them, especially if there on your side for 90% of actual relevant issues. Not theoretical issues that may pop up after the revolution that may never come.
Sounds good, except I believe them to be actively harmful to the reputation of the Lemmy-verse, so it’s important to make a clear stand, if total defederation isn’t happening.
I’d rather not Lemmy end up as another Voat. I’ve already seen tons of stories from the original rexit of “I tried Lemmy, but .ml/hex/grad seemed cringy/hostile so I left”
I think that people who choose corporate media, where /r/the_donald sentiments are actively reinforced by the corporation, over lemmy, because they found hex/grad/ml users “cringe/hostile” are not comparing things on a neutral basis.
you’re entirely right, but…have you met people?
the reputation of the Lemmy-verse
As long as the main devs of Lemmy are Dessalines and other communists, then the reputation of the Lemmy-verse being tied to a bunch of highly communist instances is just an objectively correct fact. Liberals are free to fork their own version of the software and call it something else.
Tankies, they’re tankies, there’s nothing wrong with the theory of communism. What makes a Tankie, is the support of Authoritarian regimes and turning a blind eye to genocides and many other human rights violations when committed by said regimes
And also, there’s nothing Tankie about Lemmy itself. It’s just computer code that is a Reddit-like link aggregator. It falls under separating the art from the artist. And because it’s open source, there’s no concern of financially supporting it either from its use (unless you make an explicit choice to donate)
I just think there’s a contradiction in a) continuing to use a platform that is developed primarily by Communists and b) thinking that the platform being associated with Communists “actively harmful to the reputation of the Lemmyverse”. The fact is that the Lemmyverse is associated with Communists - or “tankies” as you insist on calling them - and so if that’s its reputation then the reputation is accurate.
there’s no contradiction, because the developer does not matter. that’s the entire point of FOSS.
it could be written by a literal nazi (not that there’s a big difference between brown and red fascists) and it wouldn’t matter one bit.
that’s the entire beauty of FOSS!
we ALL own the code.
if Dessalines ever stops developing it, anyone can take over.
if Dessalines implements code the community at large doesn’t like, anyone can create a fork and change that specific part and continue from there.
we can see exactly what the code does, and can create new versions at any point.
that was always the reason behind decentralized, open source networks:
nobody can own it.
What makes a Tankie, is the support of Authoritarian regimes and turning a blind eye to genocides and many other human rights violations when committed by said regimes
That’s exactly what liberals of Lemmy do though.
When was the last time you spoke against Zelensky’s regime, that literally turned my country into a concentration camp that people cannot leave and are kidnapped off the streets (and even fucking hospitals!) in front of their crying wives/mothers, to be sent into the meatgrinder and never be seen again?
That’s a rhetorical question, of course you never did (and those who do, including me, are paid Russian shills, tankies or just bots). Because for a liberal, it’s never “authoritarianism bad” or “Nazism bad” or “human rights violations bad” or anything like this - it’s only bad when the other side is doing it. When “the good guys” are doing it, it’s not just totally acceptable, the guy is a hero.
War surely is cruel isn’t it.
The only thing more cruel than war is liberals.
Nothing is more cruel than war
He won’t speak against Zelensky’s regime, because he’s not opposed to fascists. He’s just trying to pretend his basic Sinophobia, and racism against Asians, is some kind of political philosophy.
If they actually cared about “the reputation of Lemmy,” they wouldn’t be tying it to CIA propaganda.
I’m kinda new to the fediverse. What did lemmy.ml do?
I’d recommend visiting it or joining an instance that federates with it at least. The liberals like to make it out to be a communist propaganda machine but most of the content is memes, oss, and general left wing / anti-US stuff. They will ban you on some communities if you bring up tianemen square or uyghurs though, so that sucks, but otherwise most of the content / users on there are decent.
Also, you can go-to [email protected] and check out the pinned posts, Nutomic lead dev, Tankie, and .ml head admin is basically a transphobe on top (receipts in the second pinned post)
They’ll also remove posts and ban you under their favorite catch-all “Rule 1 Bigotry” for anything critical of China/Russia
If you talk Ill of them, even on other instances comms they’ll site-ban you. So basically like how Reddit mods of ol used to ban you for participation in unrelated subs.
They helped elect trump
You’re blaming people who shoot their mouths off online for a fascist coup orchestrated by russian and US oligarchs?
Ummmm . . . Yyyyyes.
Yeah, they were bigly into making sure trump won.
How’d they trick the Dems into a bad nominee?
Oh you didn’t like Harris’ . . . what. Appeal? Her . . policy positions? And in the face of all of the insanity and horror you’ll now experience and all the pain you’ll watch people go through, you’re still fussy about it huh?
Is it still confusing? Is it? That’s a shame. It could not be a simpler choice. Hit yourself and the people you love in the head with a brick, or have some okay ice cream. You still wanna complain about the ice cream.
Sure, I’m not a fan of Harris. I wouldn’t support anyone who will arm a genocide.
But this isn’t about my position. This is about years of polling showing that Harris was always unpopular. You claimed people other than the Dems were to blame. So again, how did anyone trick the Dems into running a nominee who couldn’t win?
This is about years of polling showing that Harris was always unpopular.
No. No, it’s not.
This is about letting trump win by not supporting his one probablistic victorious challenger.
that’s all this is about. Anything about Harris is beyond irrelevant. If you want to talk about the DNC today, or whatever party you prefer today, fine. That’s a different conversation. But that’s not what this particular line of criticism is about.
My point is that there was one act everyone needed to do by a certain date to prevent a very preventable horror that will soon engulf the world. One simple thing. One binary choice. And many people here, based on thier comments before the election and even some after, did not do that thing.
They are cretinous fools and useful idiots. They have - despite a chorus of warnings and explanations - opened the door to a generation of chaos.
yes of course, trump won because of a few hundred people on a website no one’s heard of and not, yknow, the sheer racism of the average white person (the only demographic that voted in majority for trump, btw)
be serious
I mean it is true. They did help elect Trump. Before the election there were a ton of .ml accounts doing their best to get progressives to be politically apathetic. They were indistinguishable from right wing saboteurs.
their admins (the maintainers of the lemmy codebase) are tankies (authoritarian communists who believe the USSR was justified in quashing Hungarian protests against human rights abuses with violence). they take any criticism of the people’s republic of china’s government as sinophobia and have some weird opinions about the fascist government of the russian federation (effectively their explanation is that moscow achieved communist utopia in 1918 and therefor cannot backslde into a worse form of government despite overwhelming evidence that the potato shaped dickhead who sits atop the throne of skulls in moscow is maybe possibly perhaps a war criminal)
You can tell they’re communists cuz they live rent free in the heads of every .world user.
Former tankie turned anarchist. Talk to the Tankies. Learn from them, they have points.
Engles is full of shit (“On Authority” is little more than a business owner complaining that people don’t like authority, and using natural laws of the universe to justify its existence by diluting the definition of authority such that any type of power over anything is considered authority. While this is not technically incorrect, it is a gross oversimplification of what authority means) and is the primary basis for how authority is justified on the Auth left.
But when they tell you to read something, go read it. They shitpost hard, don’t eat the onion, don’t feed the trolls, but engage in genuine conversation *recognizing that you will never agree and using it as a learning experience *
edit: spelling error
I like to think of tankies as Anakin Skywalker in that scene on the Grass with Padme. Anakin is gently explaining his hopes for the future, the wonderful world he wants to build, but when asked if people disagree he says “then they’ll be made to”, revealing his authoritarian streak. To anakin, like the tankie, seems obvious that an ultimate authority is necessary to shepherd the people into their eventual utopia, by force if necessary.
Many recognize the goal of a far left state is to whither and die, but the tankie forgets that power begets power. A dictatorship of the prolietariat is all well and good until a well spoken wolf in the finest wool takes the reigns. Power does not corrupt; rather i believe it is corruption that seeks power, and like dragons those corrupted by power will not give it up, and will do anything for more.
This right here (I’m stealing it lmao)
I personally would love to see the fall of capitalism in my lifetime and the rise of “The Star Trek Economics” which IMO is a fantastic example of a realistic equal capitalism-free future. Not so perfect as to fall into the “Utopia that’s really a Dystopia in disguise” problem, but still a future worth striving for.
All current or past examples of Communism generally involve the sacrifice of personal rights and freedoms to some degree.
ETA: As far as engaging with them goes, I did for a while, multiple times in fact. Once you go beyond their surface level talking points the Authoritarian in them comes out and they will not criticize China/Russia in any shape or form no matter how deserving.
It’s really only been the last few months that I’ve actually been proactive against them because now I see the damage they do to the Lemmy-verse with their propaganda and misinformation.
I personally would love to see the fall of capitalism in my lifetime and the rise of “The Star Trek Economics” which IMO is a fantastic example of a realistic equal capitalism-free future.
To boldly go where money has no power over biology 💪
These posts are so fucking cringe lol. Its always the same guy posting them.
