It kinda sucks that cryptobros have ruined the term decentralized for most people, because decentralization is exactly what we need right now. Not the fake single-server multi-app decentralization of the blockchain, but the real multi-server multi-app decentralization of the fediverse.
Fully decentralized crypto like Bitcoin Ethereum and Monero vs two major Lemmy instances running the entire place
bit torrent is the goat decentralized platform
Hey, so why does the fediverse think it is immune to corportization?
Id imagine its quite a bit easier to influence a system like lemmy than a closed loop.
What corporation owns Lemmy? What profit does it stand to make?
How corpo can affect a Lemmy instance
- bribe the instance owner
- force the instance to show ads
- force the instance to show topics of interest
But this needs to done with the help of the instance owner. It’s possible but they can only do it for one instance at a time. That’s the beauty of a distributed system. It’s not possible to affect the entire fediverse.
But, I’m pretty sure they are harvesting our data pretty hard because all this is prime data, free from bots. But chances of influence is slim.
External influence? Maybe. We’d been having more conflicts with the people who owned the closed loop.
I just hope the corpos don’t find our most representative instance with the richest subscribers: hexbear.
because there are no investors
Oh thats why I’m here. Can’t do much, but I can shitpost. I believe in what you guys are doing 🤘
I’m doing my part too!
yay, I love starship troopers references
Would you like to know more?
Total ripoff of Helldivers!
They not only stole and sold it, they weaponised it. I find that the most unforgivable part. Burn it down, we will shine brighter. :)
PS, luv you guys. Ty for keeping me company.
Thanks for keeping me entertained,
Faithfully, A lurker
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They just colonised us.
Quite literally.
Lemmy might not be the future. The mods are just as oversensitive and overzealous as the Reddit mods. I was banned from the Vegan forum for telling them that they are never going to convince meat eaters to stop eating meat based on animal rights issues, because nobody cared about animal rights like they do. Sorry, but its true. I have also had an entire comment chain deleted from an Unpopular Opinion thread–I don’t even care to go back and check what it was all about, but I can guarantee it was because I wasn’t conforming to popular opinion.
And this is happening to a person that is generally in tune with everything people are saying here–I can’t imagine the valuable insights that we may be losing to moderator action that I never even get to see.
For any community (or even post) you are in, there is a “Modlog” green button on the side bar. If I see a removed comment I click on it to see what was removed and typically 99% of it is legitimate. The only downside (which I’ve been meaning to make a post mentioning it), is if someone is banned it auto-deletes all of their comments but doesn’t show each individual one. If you’re looking for a perfect system of which people can’t abuse mod powers … well good luck and definitely let me know if you ever find it lol.
You went to a niche forum and told them what they believe in is stupid?
Our deleted comments are stored on modlog. You honestly don’t have many deleted comments. We all get angry, it happens. Some discussions are just better to leave alone than deal with.
Many of your deleted comments are over the top arguments. Yes I get that “over the top is subjective” but we have discussions about genocide that are calmer than your discussions about terrible mechanics who are so terrible… that you imagine them going to vote for abortion bans and transgender mistreatment. Another comment you made fun of the person’s body (you also assumed their gender I guess) for not agreeing with you on how loud cars on.
We all get laughed at here. Happens to all of us. I got called the “embodiment” of a particular meme. Someone is going always going to disagree with me about something, they can just block me if it becomes an issue.
Lemmy is not perfect but it’s so much better than the alternatives. The reason why Lemmy is awesome is because its developers (self identifying tankies) would NEVER have a platform to discuss what they want. They had to build one that was impervious to pushing them into a corner on their own server/instance.
(I’m not referring to you here.) Oh the irony going out of your way to find tankie content (none of it shows up on Lemmy.world) and antagonizing them on the software they created in a way where their view isn’t rammed down your throat in the first place.
I am not sure I even knew there was a mod log. Tried to find it in my app–didn’t see it, but maybe I just missed it. I wanted to see which comment I made that was making fun of someone’s body, because that -doesn’t- sound like something I’d do unless they’d made an equally annoying remarks first. But it’s good to hear the mod log exists at all.
The usual work flow is that I’ll comment on something people don’t agree with, and multiple (2-5) people will jump on my comment with pointless insults and dumb counter-arguments, and there’s no way I am going to handle more than one person at a time with kids gloves. I’m not even projecting controversial opinions imo (unless they hate cars lawl). I’m usually already on the same side as everyone else, and they just disagree with my interpretation when the whole point of the conversation was to suggest that there might be alternative strategies, instead of doing the same thing they have been doing that hasn’t been successful since the dawn of time (or whatever)
Ridiculous.
I’m mostly annoyed by the vegan thing I mentioned originally–I’m not vegan, but I do like animals and it’s annoying to see them use the dumbest strategies in the world. They almost make me want to eat more animals just to spite them for being so out of touch.
Then start your own instance, or join one that aligns with your values instead of a generalist instance.
The issue with Reddit is systemic and foundational, but Lemmy gives users the tools they need to fix their problems.
I’m uninterested in dividing the group and speaking to an echo chamber. The only place it matters are the places people don’t automatically agree with you, and me with them.
You are in an echo-chamber. Lemmy.world intentionally defederates from instances with significant ideological differences, you may wish to pick something like Lemm.ee instead.
Lemmy.world in particular attracts people interested in a generalist instance, itself an attraction of a specific type.
The point of federation is curation of experience. You can pick a niche instance with a broad federation list so that you can have like-minded discussions in local and a broad exposure when sorting by all.
I switched from world to ee and enjoy interacting with ml grad and hexbear users ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Lemm.ee fulfills the “show me everything except CSAM” role much better than Lemmy.world, which is just Reddit 2, IMO.
Maybe I’ll do this. If even just to argue with people who are more extremist who will handle my opinions even poorer. Lol.
It’s way now than just Google. Ever try sending someone a file but you don’t want a middle man and aren’t carrying a thumb drive?
There isn’t really a shortage of p2p file sharing services
Did you even read what I said?
Yes, and I am telling you that you are incorrect to assert that sending someone a file requires a middle man or a thumb drive.
Perhaps a more thorough explanation of your answer would help?
He said p2p file sharing. It seems like it could solve the problem for Mango.
But honestly I would like to know what Mango was doing back in the day before all the “middle men” inserted themselves. What is the ideal solution if you could snap your fingers and make it happen?
I have absolutely nothing to take credit for regarding this.
You’re welcome.
Who are you again, one of the most prolific prominent highest quality posters on the fediverse or something?
Maybe I’m confusing you with SwimmingEagle
I admit nothing.
Directing further inquiries to counsel
Yeah Flying Squid is good people
Try to take this as a compliment: do you even sleep? Damn
Yes, in about 10 minutes.
You help keep Lemmy very alive, just like me!
Hooray us!
“Google sucks”
“keep making YouTube videos”
“…they said in a YouTube video. Heh. Gotcha!”
Solidarity!
Federated communities have been a challenge to me, because I’ve usually been a passive consumer, never really contributing.
I am trying to comment much more and hopefully post, because I want to help contribute the type of content that I want to see!
I suspect when you look at the internet as a whole, this is how most people are.
Scroll, scroll, scroll, thumbs up, scroll, scroll, scroll, heart, scroll, scroll, scroll, eggplant eggplant flag.
I feel like the money side of the internet has pushed people that way, and pushing for forced positivity as well, like Youtube taking away the downvote button, Facebook has never even had one.
I’ve never been a fan of up or down votes. I think they only make sense for communities of a scale that is (increasingly) less interesting to me.
Yeah, I’m actually surfing reddit and lemmy together and I noticed the votes are misleading me on reddit.
every top post is some propaganda and the real stuff is either hidden or downvoted to hell.
👍❤️🍆🍆🏴☠️
I only posted on reddit a few times, but nearly everyone was met with some weird hate, one was just a cool ohot9 of a bar I took, here tho, I’ve posted shit and I might get a somewhat negative comment maybe if I’m really unlucky, but mostly its been fun and made me want tonpost stuff, even if it is something stupid.
This place is better just because we know how bad it can be and we actively try to not be like that, to the best of our abilities.
Plus when you do come across a jerk, blocking them actually matters because there are so few people here. On reddit it’s an infinite sea of douchebags.
Likewise. It’s unlike me, but I’m here to be the life of the party to the extent that I’m able and willing. I care too much about users in control of their own communities not to participate. I hope my drop in the bucket helps bring and maintain critical mass.
Yeah on Reddit I made 12 posts in 12 years. I’ve made over 10x that number on Lemmy in less than 1 year. Caring about the platform makes a big difference in my desire to engage and contribute.
Same. I think it’s the smaller size of the community that mainly contributes to me posting more.
On reddit, if my post interests the same percentage of people I will have a lot more answer which makes it impossible to engage with all of them. And since people are less likely to respond I stopped posting on Reddit altogether.
And knowing that the community (that I’ve curated anyway) is generally not toxic and overly hostile, especially to civil discourse. That fosters trust that if I engage, I’m not going to be downvoted and socially shunned because of some minor community fixation.
Same here. On reddit I have mostly only been a commenter, I made perhaps five posts over all my years there, virtually all of my 40k karma or so was from commenting.
And while I do that here too of course I am trying to contribute content as well, like asking Linux questions which may eventually help promoting Lemmy through search engine relevance. Of course it doesn’t hurt that Linux is probably the biggest common denominator amongst Lemmy users, so the chance for useful replies is much higher than trying to get a niche community going.
I came over during the API bullshit. I was very active on Reddit but then learned about the fediverse and how great this is here. I post daily to try to help out.
This was me on reddit…
That’s a lot of karma lol
glad you are putting those memeposting skills to use here now
Reddit is literally the only non-user ran social media platform I ever used. Before that, I was using random PHPBB forums hosted by people like those who are hosting Lemmy instances or using IRC chat rooms.
It’s kind of an eternal September feeling seeing the Internet only take off in the main stream because of big tech and corporate bullshit when all they did is provide the same kind of spaces that already existed and then make them suck.
I miss the “non commercial” Internet of yesteryears…
I was too late to see that and still miss it… So glad projects like the fediverse are trying to bring it back
Preach it!