Because the modern truck has crash safety in mind due to crumple zones and other shit. I bet if a small truck were to be redesigned today with modern collision technology it would be just as safe as the truck without being multiple tons heavy to the point you nearly need a cdl license to drive a behemoth
What does that change? They’ve made them “safer”, it still achieves a zero, and loses against cars as well. It’s like your are trying to avoid the actual conversation here….
But yeah, sure deflect from the actual discussion instead of addressing the meat of the conservation… yeesh you guys are impossible to please aren’t you lmfao.
Oh I wasn’t trying to add anything to the conversation, I was just confused because you didn’t know the second most basic thing about kei cars and yet here you are telling people to do their research before speaking
To be certified as Kei class they need to meet certain standards, it’s a very minor distinction that you seem to be very concerned about for some reason……
You’re confused since you’re trying to be a pedant…? That’s different lmfao. Usually when you try to be pedantic you don’t go and say you’re confused about extremely simple things! Lmfao. What a rube.
Also I’d like to point out, I’ve been doing some digging and I can’t seem to find a crash test rating for an actual japanese made kei truck, found one for some kei cars and they did decent (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8liH4qxnBCo) but I can’t find any similar videos for trucks
Kei is a style of vehicle. This is like saying, “pickups modernized their truck”. So let’s try and understand what this misguided individual meant.
“The small vehicle that I saw had poor crash handling”. Perhaps, but that’s going to be on the individual vehicle, not a class, in the same way some small vehicles handle really well, and some fall over (remember the Mercedes A class, anyone?)
“The style of vehicle that is categorised by kei is impossible to secure, and all of them score zero”. I’d love to see evidence of this, if you’ve got any. A modern kei-style car, the Honda E 2020 has a euro NCAP 4* rating - not the best, but not zero, and that’s just the first one I found.
Sadly, kei trucks are not commonly for sale in the UK or US, so I can’t find ratings for them. There’s no reason they can’t be made as safe as other small vehicles, only a market preference for larger vehicles.
There’s a push for both? What are you talking about?
One’s just more of a priority since the vehicles are more dangerous for pedestrians as well, they’ll both get there if people have their way, you’re naive of out think otherwise.
Both are insanely dangerous for the driver, one is for pedestrians, one they’ll deal with first, than move on more judiciously to the next.
did they modernize it for crash safety or did they modernize it so they can stop using parts made 50 years ago which are harder to produce and find now.
Was the crash safety testing done between what would be an expected vehicle it would commonly see in it’s life time or was it against an f150 which is basically going to steam roll the thing nomatter how much of a tank it is.
How is it a part difference when they added airbags and other features and it didn’t increase the rating…? In those vehicles the driver is the crumble zone dude lmfao, always have been and that can’t change with their design. Fucking yeesh lmfao.
That car is still probably is at least twice the weight of the kei truck. It’s arguably probably not crashing in the correct spot for the crumple zone of the impacting car to work appropriately, and if it is it still weighs significantly more than the kei truck meaning it’s significantly less effective.
Perhaps go and find some parameters from this “supposed” test, and post them here so we can oggle at them.
And the one in-front is becoming legally impossible to drive.
Yeah, check it out in a collision, it’s unsafe as shit for the driver.
So are motorcycles. Maybe we should have a special license requirement for them, just like motorcycles.
Because the modern truck has crash safety in mind due to crumple zones and other shit. I bet if a small truck were to be redesigned today with modern collision technology it would be just as safe as the truck without being multiple tons heavy to the point you nearly need a cdl license to drive a behemoth
Kei modernized their truck, it still scores a zero.
Maybe research first…?
Kei is a legal classification and not a company???
What does that change? They’ve made them “safer”, it still achieves a zero, and loses against cars as well. It’s like your are trying to avoid the actual conversation here….
But yeah, sure deflect from the actual discussion instead of addressing the meat of the conservation… yeesh you guys are impossible to please aren’t you lmfao.
Oh I wasn’t trying to add anything to the conversation, I was just confused because you didn’t know the second most basic thing about kei cars and yet here you are telling people to do their research before speaking
To be certified as Kei class they need to meet certain standards, it’s a very minor distinction that you seem to be very concerned about for some reason……
You’re confused since you’re trying to be a pedant…? That’s different lmfao. Usually when you try to be pedantic you don’t go and say you’re confused about extremely simple things! Lmfao. What a rube.
Also I’d like to point out, I’ve been doing some digging and I can’t seem to find a crash test rating for an actual japanese made kei truck, found one for some kei cars and they did decent (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8liH4qxnBCo) but I can’t find any similar videos for trucks
“Kei modernized their truck”.
Kei is a style of vehicle. This is like saying, “pickups modernized their truck”. So let’s try and understand what this misguided individual meant.
“The small vehicle that I saw had poor crash handling”. Perhaps, but that’s going to be on the individual vehicle, not a class, in the same way some small vehicles handle really well, and some fall over (remember the Mercedes A class, anyone?)
“The style of vehicle that is categorised by kei is impossible to secure, and all of them score zero”. I’d love to see evidence of this, if you’ve got any. A modern kei-style car, the Honda E 2020 has a euro NCAP 4* rating - not the best, but not zero, and that’s just the first one I found.
Sadly, kei trucks are not commonly for sale in the UK or US, so I can’t find ratings for them. There’s no reason they can’t be made as safe as other small vehicles, only a market preference for larger vehicles.
Motorcycles are far less safe and far less utilitarian, but still legal and ubiquitous.
And?
So why are Kei cars being banned, and not motorcycles?
There’s a push for both? What are you talking about?
One’s just more of a priority since the vehicles are more dangerous for pedestrians as well, they’ll both get there if people have their way, you’re naive of out think otherwise.
Both are insanely dangerous for the driver, one is for pedestrians, one they’ll deal with first, than move on more judiciously to the next.
did they modernize it for crash safety or did they modernize it so they can stop using parts made 50 years ago which are harder to produce and find now.
Was the crash safety testing done between what would be an expected vehicle it would commonly see in it’s life time or was it against an f150 which is basically going to steam roll the thing nomatter how much of a tank it is.
It failed against a bloody car lmfao.
How is it a part difference when they added airbags and other features and it didn’t increase the rating…? In those vehicles the driver is the crumble zone dude lmfao, always have been and that can’t change with their design. Fucking yeesh lmfao.
trucks are also a car?
That car is still probably is at least twice the weight of the kei truck. It’s arguably probably not crashing in the correct spot for the crumple zone of the impacting car to work appropriately, and if it is it still weighs significantly more than the kei truck meaning it’s significantly less effective.
Perhaps go and find some parameters from this “supposed” test, and post them here so we can oggle at them.
Trucks and cars are vehicles dude… suvs are another distinction, got a source of people calling trucks “cars”? That would be great.
Fucking yikes……
google the definition of car lmao.
Check how much worse it is for the pedestrian to be hit by the pick up truck.
What a stupid argument.
Huh, both are dead from the videos I just watched. Any particular source I should be looking at?
It’s funny that pedestrians aren’t being hit at the same rates as in the US, so it’s like it’s not actually a concern since it doesn’t happen enough…?