• Tryptaminev@lemm.eeEnglish
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      5 months ago

      Why though? I don’t think that Rohans problem was lack of proper swords. Giving it to a boy maybe 12-14 years old, because there is not enough men of fighting age was the problem at the time. But i don’t think the Orcs would have made concessions bc. of that.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.socialEnglish
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      5 months ago

      The Rohirrim were spread out dealing with raiding parties until after Helm’s Deep. Contextually we’re to understand that about half their available manpower is either dealing with other problems or just didn’t answer the muster.

  • fluxion@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 months ago

    Nah fuck this army I’m gonna go recruit some immortal ghost soldiers instead. Do whatever you want with these I’m out.

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
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      5 months ago

      That… That right there made me hate the entire trilogy… So we’re slowly overwhelmed, we’re slowly losing and being killed and the situation is so dire and… Oh there is the immortal deux ex machina guys just trampling over the enemy killing them all in a minute aaaaand we’re done!

      It was so anti climactic

      • CluckN@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        5 months ago

        Agreed, I had the same thoughts with Oppenheimer. They just invent a big scary bomb and that ends the war? What an anti-climatic ending.

        • Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          5 months ago

          Kinda like the war. Island hoping through the Pacific theater for ages, then they just drop two extre spicy bombs and the whole deal is done

        • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          5 months ago

          It would be more like, they invented the atomic bomb, use it to take Iwo Jima and then the United States goes back to sulking and wondering how the hell they’re going to take the home islands.

          In lotr they use the undead to win the battle of pellenor fields but they don’t use it to win the war. It’s a legitimate plot hole.

      • greenskye@lemm.eeEnglish
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        5 months ago

        To be fair the entire army itself was just a distraction so that frodo could destroy the ring. The ghosts weren’t what caused them to win, they just prevented the death of the bait.

        • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          5 months ago

          Right but, why bother with smoke and mirrors when you have an immortal unbeatable army in the first place.

          Even in the book its not really explained why the oathbreakers only help out for one fight; the only difference is in the books they never actually go to Minas Tirith they just help against the corsairs.

          • greenskye@lemm.eeEnglish
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            5 months ago

            Presumably Sauron could’ve destroyed the ghosts, he was just a little distracted at that time frame, or not yet able or willing to face them directly. Like the Eagles, they can’t really tackle the Sauron problem, so aren’t as much of a solve as they appear.

            Also the reason they only fight in the final battle I think is because that is the only battle they’re bound to fight in, I’m not even sure you could use them to fight any other battle than against Sauron’s armies.

      • soliloquy@startrek.websiteEnglish
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        5 months ago

        I’m probably remembering wrong I haven’t watched these movies in a while, but weren’t the ghosts really hostile to everyone? I had the impression that other than superstition the ghosts really would kill anyone that approached them so nobody thought to. Aragorn was only able to make a deal with them because of some ancient family curse stuff he could free them from… which does sound machina-y, but it might explain why nobody tried to approach them up until that point

        • Seleni@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          5 months ago

          Basically, yes.

          In the books it was just that they would only answer to Isldur’s Heir. They also scared the Corsairs of Umbar away from their ships, but it was an army of Dunadain (along with a few elves, like Elrond’s sons) that actually ran them off permanently, so they could use the ships to bring some of the Gondorians in the south back north to join the main battle.

  • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    5 months ago

    I mean…the only way you could get more spears in less time is if you made some kind of pact with an army of undead!

  • frezik@midwest.socialEnglish
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    5 months ago

    Théoden: “What do you expect of me? Run down to some cave and conjure up an undead army?”

    Aragorn: brb

  • LordCrom@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 months ago

    He’s a badass. When your battlecry is “DEATH!” You know some shits about to happen .

  • Toribor@corndog.socialEnglish
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    5 months ago

    Give each guy two spears. Now you have twice the spears and you didn’t even have to find more guys.

    Contact me for more tips on defeating dark lords.

    • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.ccEnglish
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      5 months ago

      The Dark Lord summoned 1000 hot naked succubus and my men’s about to succumb to the lure, how do i proceed?

      • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.todayEnglish
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        5 months ago

        TBH it’s really easy to find spearmen if you have the spears. They require vastly less training than a swordsman or shieldbearer.

        “Keep the pointy end towards the enemy at all times.”

        “Sir, I’m a seasoned wheat farmer, I know how point sticks work thank you very much.”

    • pancakes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      5 months ago

      What would you do if you had 6000 spears and your high maintenance royal friend says it’s one third of what he hoped for?