• Dr. Moose@lemmy.world
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    I love my Steamdeck so much. Been like 2 years now? still rocking every game I want to play.

    Playing through ZenlessZoneZero rn which isn’t even officially supported in any extent and runs flawlessly! Also it’s a real computer that you can do real work on.

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      Same. I was very impressed by the games that work despite being unsupported. Heck, I’ve got Rainbow Six: Vegas working on it with gamepad support. I couldn’t even do that in Windows.

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      My Steam Deck has been awesome, money very well spent.

      And Valve has made a good chunk of money off me since buying it too lol. I keep getting games specifically for the Deck.

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        I upgraded my PC and now I barely touch my steam deck. The money spent on it is still VERY worth it. Even if I never touched it again, I use it when traveling, I would still be unbelievably satisfied with my purchase.

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          In a similar boat. However I now have games strictly for the Deck and games strictly for the Desktop.

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        I bought like 200 games since I had mine though mostly indie and actually played a lot of them! I spend quite a bit of time traveling and it’s awesome to play some strategy with the trackpad - the trip just flies by!

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    I know this won’t work for everyone, but I just quit playing games that don’t work or even from publishers that do shitty things and there’s still plenty of games out there. There’s a lot of shovelware out there, but there’s also a lot of good stuff out there.

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      I think it’s worth advocating for quitting shitty games, though.

      Out of many friends I’ve had who (used to) frequent games like PUBG, Dota 2, League of Legends, Valorant, Overwatch, etc., most were just having a bad time, all the time. Granted, some of these work on Linux, but the point is, those of my friends that still play Overwatch (“2”, lol) just seem to be happier and more functional when they have to quit for some period of time.

      I’ve been having a much better time with my life once I went for the good old enjoyment rather than chasing rank or wins or skill, finally making time to play amazing single-player titles again or just screwing around in online games.

      And curiously enough, the online games I actually want to play and have fun doing so are the ones that work on Linux, while the rest thankfully refuses!

      • LunchMoneyThief@links.hackliberty.org
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        The pervasive idea that games must necessarily be about conflict, competition and overcoming enemies.

        It took me too long to realize that I basically just want a Star trek holodeck experience.

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          Well, conflict is, pretty much, the backbone of any story, narrative, or motive. Has been for long.

          Still, I’m not sure it’s all that relevant and necessary for a video game, I agree. Some of them just let me do things I can’t in real life, like building my stupid base on different planets and moons, or transforming the landscape for the sake of it.

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      This is the way. If we don’t stop buying those games the publishers will never recognize how shittu they are.

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    Linux is amazing for games thar don’t have anti-cheat and I don’t play those games. Saying that Linux gaming isn’t ready is just stupid at this point. And for emulation it might be better than Windows.

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      wine’s backwards compatibility is argued to be better than windows

      but yeah. valve sells a linux console ffs

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    That’s cool games thar require anti cheat measures or have sports are generally speaking games I’m not interested in as a rule.

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      “We need kernel access to prevent cheaters from ruining our game” is the dating equivalent to a guy asking for your phone password on the first date.

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        It’s not even that. I have zero interest in multilayer games even less so “seasonal” games. Basically all the stuff AAA says is dead I like and all the stuff they say I should like I dislike

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          The season nomenclature is fucking stupid and I hate it. If a game makes its DLC or quarterly updates and calls them “Seasons” I am revolted.

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            I will say that in general I also agree, but there are games where I have been completely okay with it, like DRG. But those updates are always free and really just define (formerly) time period in which a long-term event is contained within. I do love that the latest season is really more of a chapter than a season since you can pick and choose whenever you want to jump into whichever season you want to play and progress through. Only seasonal events have time constraints now.

            This is particularly nice since my DRG group has moved to playing Grounded instead, with the occasional DRG night and don’t want to feel tethered to a release schedule.

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    What e-sports have kernel level anti-cheat? Isn’t it just the crap published by Riot? I know both CS and Dota 2 work on Linux, I’m pretty sure you can get Overwatch 2 running. You can’t exactly play Smash on a Windows PC either, but I think the other major fighting games like Tekken and Street Fighter work. Are there any other serious contenders for a major esport I’m just forgetting?

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      Personally, I see incompatibility with kernel-level anti-cheat as a feature rather than a limitation.

      People can still cheat without involving any software on their PC because the game needs to display something to the user (which can be analyzed by another device, either intercepting the stream before sending it along to the monitor or even by using a camera to grab the pixels from the monitor, if there’s encryption used on the signal to prevent mitm). And it needs to accept input from the user, which another device connected to the device analysing the display can adjust to improve aim, prevent friendly fire, or just auto shoot when you’re pointed at a target. You could even write a full bot using that.

      On the other hand, kernel level anti-cheat can be an attack vector to get into your machine in a way that existing malware detection will have a hard time detecting. Kernel modification is the level rootkits work at and an arbitrary code execution flaw could mean your hardware is forever compromised, or at least anything with flashable firmware storage (especially if that firmware also implements the flash capabilities, since it could then add its own code to any new firmware you try to flash).

      I just don’t play many multiplayer games these days to avoid the cheating. And if I do get back into multiplayer games, I’ll either do it on a console where I don’t care as much about the kernel getting exploited or I’ll play a game where the servers are managed in a way that cheaters will get banned because an admin can see what they are doing.

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      It’s just the usual “AAA” suspects

      Valorant Battlefield 2042 Rainbow Six League

      Even CS technically if you play competitive on faceit, which is still pretty dumb.

      There’s plenty that actually work though, even with anticheat: https://areweanticheatyet.com

      Anti cheat preventing gaming on Linux is honestly an outlier at this stage. It just means the devs don’t want to deal with working with an additional OS which several other devs and valve itself has shown is not a major issue anymore. Both EAC and BattleEye have had linux userspace clients for years, and both support WINE now.

      Also because they probably can’t convince linux users to install a kernel level anti cheat as if that isn’t rootkit spyware lol. Akmod and dkms devs would probably laugh if Riot tried such a thing.

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      Oh yeah. For me, it’s a Match-3 game that I stopped playing specifically because it didn’t support Linux. Too bad it’s also the best release from the franchise imo (The Treasures of Montezuma 4).

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    I’ve switched for over a month now and did had problems with 2 games out of the 6 I tried so far (all of which were both games installed via Lutris and I found solutions to fix them both).

    Funnily enough one of the games I got via Steam which did not work before in Windows now works in Linux. Further, I was running Windows 7 (yeah, I know it was a bad idea security wise), so there are AAA games whose minimum Windows version is 10 which I now can play in Linux that I couldn’t before in the Windows I was using.

    All in all it has been great and I have no intention whatsoever to go back to Windows.

    Even if there are games that won’t work in Linux, there are so many good games out there that can entertain me for hundreds of hours that I won’t miss the handful I cannot get to run in Linux.

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      I have a couple games that were Windows 98 and Windows XP games that don’t work on Windows 10/11, but work just fine on Linux. It’s funny that Linux is sometimes better at running Windows games than Windows is.

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        Wine and Proton manage to be better at both forward and backward compatibility with Windows than actual Windows.

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    I remember seeing someone in a comments section say why bother use linux for gaming bro got destroyed by the replies lol ‎ he also called linux users ekittens 💀

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    Just switch over, if you like! I want you to feel comfortable with the decision and feel motivated to give it a good shot.

    If it’s not for you, I understand. Maybe in a few years it’ll be a better fit but it’s no rush.

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        It’s a dumb reason to get banned from an instance. I don’t see anything wrong with making an observation other programmers have already made. Thanks for the warning though.

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            I know, I’m one of them😆🤙. I try not to be annoying though, hope you didn’t take it wrong. Edit: sorry, though this was a comment on my response to someone being weird about rust.

            If anyone truly cares about the community and want people to switch. They need to be understanding and willing to accept the fact some people have good reasons not to switch. Being pushy or insulting isn’t going to win them back and will most likely sour their perception of linux.

            I remember how much hate I got for using an Nvidia graphics card on linux. I also remember helping other people get Linux running on their graphics cards. There were so many toxic individuals that would scold new users for “supporting Nvidia, that evil company” despite the fact most people switching from windows probably already owned that Nvidia card.

            There were also others that long since given up because of all the hate they received. I want that to be uncommon and thankfully it seems to be more the case nowadays.

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    Just wait until Vanguard pulls a Falcon and we’ll never see those anticheats again. But still 4 years clean of LoL next year I get the medal.

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    The sheer power of instantly switching desktops in Linux makes the windows user afraid.

    But I have seen a lot of old windows heads look at Linux for gaming performance where Microsoft is failing them with bloatware such as copilot.

    I don’t think the rootkit anti cheats would ever work to a level windows games developers want it to on Linux though.

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      Anticheat will have to just come from other methods that people will also hate.

      Imagine, for example, if they required a form of government issued ID and the account was tied to you specifically. Despite privacy nightmare that it is (plus other issues, especially around globally accessed games), bans would have significantly larger impact if they’re tied to a real-world identity.

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      It doesn’t matter to me if games that use rootkit anticheat don’t work on Linux. I would never install anything that requires a rootkit.

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    There are a few dozen esport and AAA games tthat will never work because of their anti-cheat engines.

    I see this as an absolute win.

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    I hope steam can fix big picture mode with nvidia. It’s sooo slow.

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      That’s nvidias burdon. But I’m sure RedHat/Canonical will coach them to an ideal outcome.

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    I’ve been gaming on Linux exclusively since 2016.

    DXVK was an amazing improvement. Steam play makes everything so much easier. And the Steamdeck was a revelation.

    I don’t like to play games with other people anyways so Anti-Cheat is no issue for me.

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          That’s one of the weirder ways I’ve seen to say “I don’t enjoy competitive games and everyone who does is stupid.”

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            If that’s how you prefer to think of it I’ll let you have it.

            I am legitimately not interested in playing PvP games against strangers on the internet because inevitably someone somewhere will have taken the game way too fucking seriously and is basically just griefing people. They use aim bots when they can get away with it. A game that comes with anti-cheat is basically an admission that this game has that glaring flaw and that someone somewhere is getting off on ruining pubs or casual for everyone else.