This instance has made me realize that I am an anarchist. What a strange world… No regrets, thank you guys.
Hell yeah welcome to the struggle.
Just remember you don’t need to agree with every mainstream anarchist take to call yourself an anarchist. That’s the best part and one of many things that set this movement a cut above other leftist movements.
the fediverse is inherently propaganda for the possibility of anarchism
Isn’t one of the main lemmy devs a staunch communist?
Yes, unfortunately this is why the software itself enforces such rigid hierarchies.
Don’t even have to be an anarchist, just have to have at least partial hearing and/or vision.
Tankies: handing out “genocide denial” bans for calling Ukraine a genocide.
Me posting this meme with the full knowledge that it might make it to “All” and generate a shitshow of a comment section
You’re my hero
posting anti-tankie and anti-electoralism stuff in an Anarchism comm is one of the easiest way to generate infinite salt.
This community is just popular enough to make it to /all, but not popular enough to drown out all the liberals/tankies that come here.
I phrased this horribly sorry
Are you though?
Am I what?
Edit: Oh, you mean if I am sorry, well, I’m sorry I can’t phrase it properly.
As expected, tankies came out in drove to whitewash Uyghur genocide 😂
There are far too many complaints and eyewitness to hide the grievances from the Uyghurs and CCP’s mistreatment of them.
Ngl this mene unnecesarily divides people more than anything.
No socialists and “tankies” I know IRL don’t deny Uyghur genocide, general opinion is “Conflict between the Chinese government and Uyghur groups exist but US media exaggerates it for clickbait articles too.”
Similar with Israel. Democrats mostly say “I hate the Iran’s government for their legal system but still doesn’t justify civilians dying.” Nobody is congratulating Israel on “standing up for gay rights” or some shit.
Also ask the other group how they feel about global warming or education system sometime.
Chinese communists certainly deny the Uyghur genocide.
are American tankies not also funding Israel? if you pay taxes, you’re complicit, or at least that’s what it seems the meme is saying about liberals.
I think they meant the advocation for it, though the wording is a bit off.
Every day you wake up in the morning you can open up your phone and check new videos of murdered and mutilated children in Palestine at the hands of Israel.
You can go on a google search to find images of the 1989 Tiananmen protest and the violence that took place, very gore stuff. We’re talking 1989, most cameras were analog, bulky and visible, and required professional developing afterwards. As censored as that’s been in China, you can still find plenty of photo evidence of violence in and against the protests.
Yet, in 2025, somehow, in the smartphone era, when almost literally every Chinese adult citizen carries a camera in their pocket with internet access (and widespread non-prosecuted access of VPNs in China to bypass the great firewall), there isn’t a shred of photographic evidence of violence against the Uyghur people. The claims start on 2019-2020, and in FIVE YEARS, it hasn’t been possible to capture photographic evidence of the harrowing genocide?
Not a shred of photographic evidence
That is misleading. Why did authorities try to stop BBC from filming?
my understanding is that it’s at the point of erasure without outright murder at this time. being sent to concentration camps, forced labor, denied right to their culture, etc. the stuff that tends to come before mass killings, and the ultimate purpose of mass killings, is erasure of a group identity.
maybe it’s not a genocide like in Bosnia but it’s certainly problematic. the actions seem to be not far off from the ways indigenous americans have been erased, which is another place where the word “genocide” has been debated
There’s no evidence whatsoever of forced labor, and calling the reeducation camps “concentration camps” is very misleading and not really based on actual evidence, just on misinterpreted Adrian Zenz anti-chinese propaganda.
In China, it’s normal for teens 13 to 18 years old to be interned into boarding schools in which they study about 12h a day. In western Europe that would be considered child abuse, in China many see it as a rather normal thing.
This isn’t to say there’s probably been a degree of authority abuse and police state for an interval of time in Xinjiang as a consequence of counter-terrorism policy. But Uyghur culture and language are celebrated, people enjoy better living conditions than 10 years ago, and you can see the vibrant life and culture in Kashgar if you go watch any content from any content creator who’s been in the area lately.
Also, if you cross a checkpoint in Xinjiang, and there are lots of them, you’ll likely have your phone checked and be asked to delete disharmonious images by the armed guards at them.
And please forgive me if being forced to dance, have your culture commodified, and be an exotic other for Han men’s gaze and touch doesn’t fill me with vim and joy for the state of Kashgar.
I googled it and found a literal trove of evidence.
Here’s a starting point since it’s eluded you for so long.
How is this evidence of genocide? This is evidence for the existence of correction camps (which you can obviously criticise) during a very concrete period of time in Xinjiang over the span of a few years, not evidence of genocide
This was the point where you moved the goalposts and revealed you’re not willing to discuss in good faith.
Have you read the picture which makes this post? It literally revolves around the word “genocide”. Who’s moving the goalposts here by saying “well maybe it’s not a genocide but there’s been some extent of police state during a counter-terrorism campaign”?
genocide, by definition, includes the erasure of a cultural group.
these camps are purpose built to erase a specific culture through “re-education”. that is genocide.
these camps are purpose built to erase a specific culture through “re-education”
Then why did the camps close after the few years it took for the counter-terrorism campaign to work? Why does Xinjiang have a regional government, with its chairman being an Uyghur man called Erkin Tuniyaz? Why are there above 100 Islamic associations in Xinjiang with imams teaching theology and Arabic?
Even the UN gave up on pretending the Uighur genocide is real, you’re pushing outdate propaganda
The UN, where the CCP has veto powers?
There is significant politicization of genocide declarations. They are all declared by fascist US empire and its slave controlled democracy colonies. There is very obvious extensive video evidence of extermination policies for Palestinians.
China responded to 2014 terrorist attacks with education and job creation programs. Xinxiang has had decent prosperity and population growth compared to other Chinese provinces despite a BDS policy from US controlled empire. The “technical genocide” accusation is based on a handful of Uyghur women with 4+ children who somehow all got to the UK, and claimed to now be sterile. Uyghurs had historically been exempt from Chinese one child policy.
Political demonism happens independently of facts. There are historical tensions in Xinxiang between Uyghur/muslim majority and relatively more prosperous Han minority, but Chinese policies are far more egalitarian than Alabama policies with much higher inequality. China has made the most humanist response to terrorism in history of civilization, even if it is not above criticism.
Interestingly Xinjiang’s population growth since 2015 has been due to migration from the rest of China rather than birth rates, and the Uighur birth rate has fallen over this time period while the slackening of birth control legislation has led to slight increases (as compared to one child policy era) for the rest of non-Tibetan PRC.
The destruction of traditional life-styles and enforced
capitalistSocialist (with Chinese Characteriatics) modernity with SOEs taking control of traditionally common or village wide croplands and flocks, in the 80s led to a lot of the economic problems in the first place. It’s similar to enclosure in Europe, where now to not want to labour away in a factory for a wage and make your boss richer is extremism and also mad.That is to say, I do not think the PRC is actively killing large amounts of Uighurs. But there is a policy of cultural erasure, commodifiction of culture and heritage, and very tight, apartheid style control of the population.
The definition of genocide originally included cultural erasure, but it was vetoed by the U.S and some other countries because they would be guilty of genocide themselves.
I would love a source on the Uyghurs that isn’t Adrain Zenz. He is the* Fash behind the “Victims of Communism Memorial Fund”.
All sources eventually point back to him in our Western Media, and its fucking disgusting.
(Edit: he is one of the Fash behind actual Nazi Propaganda Smuggling)
Being anarchist is just stupid period
