• utopiah@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    Eh… “Robin Li says increased accuracy is one of the largest improvements we’ve seen in Artificial Intelligence. “I think over the past 18 months, that problem has pretty much been solved—meaning when you talk to a chatbot, a frontier model-based chatbot, you can basically trust the answer,” the CEO added.”

    That’s plain wrong. Even STOA black box chatbots give wrong answer to the simplest of questions sometimes. That’s precisely what NOT being able to trust mean.

    How can one believe anything this person is saying?

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      To trust a computer it has to be correct 100% of the time, because it can’t say “I don’t know”.

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      Same thing happened to the Dot Com bubble. The fundamental technology has valid uses, but we’re in the stage where some people are convinced it can be used for literally anything.

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      It will burst because no one is going to pay subscription fee for every AI gizmo every app puts in your phone. The way they make any money now is just funneling more and more vc money in exchange of AGI promise (coming soon)

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    If you’re invested in these stocks, make sure you have your stop loss orders in place, 100%.

    I imagine the bubble bursting will be quick and deadly.

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    Yeah, AI is really just a surveillance tool than anything else.

    When AI “creates” something, it’s just pulling up things related to words you typed in and making an amalgamation of what you typed in out of what it has.

    The real purpose is for corporations and governments to look through people’s devices and online storage at super speed.

    this is why you all need to be using end-to-end encrypted storage for everything and VPNs with perfect forward secrecy

    do your own research into the history of each provider of those things before you buy it

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      There is so much wrong with this…

      AI is a range of technologies. So yes, you can make surveillance with it, just like you can with a computer program like a virus. But obviously not all computer programs are viruses nor exist for surveillance. What a weird generalization. AI is used extensively in medical research, so your life might literally be saved by it one day.

      You’re most likely talking about “Chat Control”, which is a controversial EU proposal to use scan either on people’s devices or from provider’s ends for dangerous and illegal content like CSAM. This is obviously a dystopian way to achieve that as it sacrifices literally everyone’s privacy to do it, and there is plenty to be said about that without randomly dragging AI into that. You can do this scanning without AI as well, and it doesn’t change anything about how dystopian it would be.

      You should be using end to end regardless, and a VPN is a good investment for making your traffic harder to discern, but if Chat Control is passed to operate on the device level you are kind of boned without circumventing this software, which would potentially be outlawed or made very difficult. It’s clear on it’s own that Chat Control is a bad thing, you don’t need some kind of conspiracy theory about ‘the true purpose of AI’ to see that.

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    They couldn’t keep their heads on fucking straight during the .com bubble, and here they are doing it all over again.

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      I went to a AI conference and you can just sense how bogus it all feels. Like “Our patent pending AI system references billions of crowd-sourced data points to identify what you are craving for breakfast! Never think about breakfast again!”

      And as a engineer speaking with other engineers, we all collectively shrug and just keep taking the money. I’ll AI your toaster for enough money IDGAF.

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            Playing the long game.

            Meanwhile… At the Intel board meeting… Qualcomm: (Unzips fly, unfurls testicles, placing them on the table for all to see) “I want to buy Intel”.

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              Lol that was never a serious option. Regulators would never allow it. But it was Qualcomm trying to flex for wall street to see.

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    People look at the advertising for this shit (and future tech-bro shit) and wonder, “who is this for”? Remember E.L.O.N. Exaggerated Lies Overlooked Narratives

    Think of every manager and boss you’ve ever had. They don’t think, they just do. Salesmen convince them using issues that don’t exist, to sell solutions that don’t really work, to people that don’t understand how to use them. Repeat over 70 years and you have the modern American education system.

    Now things are different. Money is scarce, things are getting tight. Tech-Bros have changed from a mildly infuriating strategy, to a downright abusive one. These simple minded managers think everything is under attack, and the only solution is what they already have, but heavily monetized and completely unusable.

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    Yeah, but the 0.1% remaining will take over the world.

    Does anyone remember the era when there were a million search engines? Google didn’t spawn alone.

    Same with Amazon. You think nobody else tried to make an online store in the 90s? Lol.

    People are trying to vindicate their dislike of AI, pointing to trends like this as if it were supporting evidence. But saying “AI is going to be a big flop because 99% of companies today will end up failing” is as stupid as saying “online shopping will never work because 99% of online stores will close by the year 2010”

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      .com websites didn’t disappear after the dotcom bubble burst either. AI is definitely in a massive bubble right now, but something being in a bubble doesn’t mean it’s going to vanish completely. The AI companies with some substance backing them will weather the upcoming storm.

      Full disclosure: I don’t hate AI, but I hate that management-types are fellating themselves to the idea of it or the things than it can potentially do, rather than something that is providing them some kind of concrete benefit right now. I’m also mad at consumers for being stupid little sheep and paying a premium for anything that companies just happen to slap an “AI-powered” sticker on. It’s like organic produce 2.0 - you have to have it, but we can’t explain why, nor can we elaborate on what it does better than it’s contemporary.

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      Same with Amazon. You think nobody else tried to make an online store in the 90s? Lol.

      Fun fact: the first online store still exists. It’s Pizza Hut. They launched an experiment for online ordering in 1994. The first company to ever sell a product on the web.

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        Yum brands has always been at the forefront of using tech to sell fast food. This was true then and is true now. Taco Bell has pioneered kiosks and in-app ordering as well as KDS in QSR environments.

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        No one actually thought that they were a good idea it was just a bunch of con artists. It was a bubble for sure but it was an entirely artificially created one. There was no real business behind any of it.

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          I would argue that this current AI bubble is artificially created by a different type of conmen.

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            Yeah but in fairness the AI actually does work. You can actually use the AI to achieve things I’ve never seen anybody achieve anything beneficial with NFTs

            My argument really being that there is a potential for real benefit with AI in a way that never existed for made-up digital scarcity

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              I totally agree with you and once dudes with dollar signs in their eyes stop with craming it in toasters I will be very happy to see where the tech goes.

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      I doubt anyone is downplaying that. People are just discussing how all companies are pushing A.I into products that don’t need it. Idk about you but I’m tired seeing A.I advertised as a feature on every app/site when it’s just a gpt wrapper.

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        The rot has even spread into hardware. No one wants die space wasted on a stupid NPU with with less than 1/1000 of the computing power their GPU has and can’t be used for anything other than local LLMs which FTI very few people use and those that do tend to have powerful Nvidia GPUs.

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          I’m having flashbacks to Windows 8 being heavily developed to be “touch optimized” at a time where 3% of computers had touchscreen capabilities.

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      Sure, but the difference here was that all those companies were offering something different. Some had better results than others, a better ui, more accuracy in certain niches, etc. But 99% of AI companies now are all effectively reselling the OpenAI API. They aren’t making an effort to differentiate themselves at all. It’s as if Google was the only shop in town, and everyone bought all their search data an algorithms to slap their logo on. That’s just simply not sustainable at anywhere near the scale it is now. This won’t be a 3-5 year decline, it’ll be a 2 month crash.

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      Wrong audience for this message. Most on lemmy are still running with their fingers in their ears yelling la-la-la really loud.