• NutWrench@lemmy.ml
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    5 hours ago

    What I would like to know the most is why 14 million registered Democrats failed to vote in this election, especially given what is at stake. Because if it was for some stupid, single issue, then fark them, good and hard.

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      5 hours ago

      it’s because the dems tacked hard right to appeal to the mythical “moderate conservative” while telling everyone to the left of them to fuck off for months and months on end. people were shouting from the rooftops that this was going to cost them the election, and damn wouldn’t you know it, it looks like it did! will they learn from it? probably not!

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        Why would they learn? They’ll be fine.

        This is what people don’t seem to understand. This is not some mythical “huge force.” Democrats elect their people through primaries and they rise. Same as ever.

        But all the people who don’t participate? YOU are the ones that have to suffer. Harris was a fine candidate. Sure she wasn’t Santa Claus on Christmas but she was fine and a million ways better than Trump. But people said “eh, I’m ok with Trump then” and didn’t vote for her.

        She isn’t gonna suffer. The DNC isn’t going to suffer. YOU and I are. This is what we call an “own goal.” And all the people wanting more left policy? Well good fucking luck when they stack the SCOTUS with 40 year old right wing fucks, stack the rest of the courts, and move everything back another 20 years progress-wise. Think you’re getting better healthcare soon? Think again. It got a ton harder now. Worried about the climate? Great! Because it was fucked before and it’ll be fucked a fuck more now. What little we were doing is going up in smoke.

        Besides that- two things can be right. The Dems need to refocus AND shithead lazy ass nonvoters need to get off the fucking couch and vote no matter what. Well, if they can still vote in a free and fair election in 2/4 years.

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          32 minutes ago

          Are you suggesting that if a voter doesn’t feel that either candidate will represent their needs, they should vote anyway?

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            29 minutes ago

            They should be smart enough to vote for the one who gets closest to their needs. If they’re not a complete moron that is.

            The car is moving in one direction or another. It’d be smart to at least move it in the direction you think it should go.

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        4 hours ago

        The only other explanation is that those 14 million Democrats DID vote, but that their votes weren’t counted due to election day farkery. But I’m not ready to go down that rabbit hole without solid proof.

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          2 hours ago

          Democrats are ready and willing to do anything other then deliver the change Obama promised so many years ago.

          Only the most giga depresso life will do for our future generations

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          It’s possible, but I doubt it.

          Occam’s Razor says people stayed home because the Democrats ran a shitty centrist who tried to appeal to the nonexistent ‘moderate Republican’. The Democrats have been doing that as long as I’ve been alive.

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          I want them to do a recount. Here’s solid proof:

          Trump saying people don’t even need to go vote and he didn’t need their votes to win, Trump saying he had an election day secret with Johnson, the over 50 bomb threats, Elon Musk’s bullshittery with the lottery, the ballot boxes set on fire, the numerous people reporting issues with voting, previous election interference by Russia and Russia’s ongoing war, and tbh wouldn’t it be the perfect way to start a civil war in the US by Russia, by actually stealing the election this time and letting us know a week or two later?

          So let’s recount because our planet can’t survive 4 more years of drill baby drill. Let’s just do an audit of those machines and check it all out. If the audit is fine then fine. It’s the same courtesy he got.

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            those things certainly did effect the total number of voters, but there’s no evidence that any of the votes for trump were fake, or that votes for harris were specifically not counted or destroyed (enough to effect a nationwide poor performance).

            Either there was a massive, nationwide conspiracy (for which there is no compelling evidence), or Harris simply didn’t perform well.

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              I think she maybe didn’t perform well, sure. That can be true. But there’s enough evidence of issues includ8ng weird shit Trump himself said, that I think we should do an audit anyway just to make sure.

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                You’re getting into conspiracy theory here. Trump did better than expected everywhere. Blue states. Red States. Blue cities. Red cities. Didn’t matter. There was a shift almost everywhere. And this is across a nation that uses radically different voting machines, forms of voting, voting machine providers, etc. It doesn’t make sense that the could all be rigged so perfectly. It’s insanity.

                Yes, you can count “just in case,” but that way lies madness.