Guaranteed the word “woke” will be thrown around left and right
I don’t think I’ll ever understand why people have a problem with a female protagonist. I’m a girl and my fave games ever all involve playing as male protagonists. One of the core essences of playing videogames is escapism, to be someone that you’re not, I don’t see what’s immersion breaking about it. I’ve seen the trailer and I’m hyped!
Metroid FTW
Where ? I don’t see them
Various comment sections on German IT news sites. Cesspit of incels and horny old men that complain about the ass they’ll have to stare at not being plump enough.
One question, do you have a GF ?
I’m actually interested in both ways your narration is going to go. Please describe both paths:
a) No, I had one but then we married.
b) No, I don’t.
So shall I assume that you don’t ?
I am unsure how to express myself any clearer. Please proceed.
So you’re an incel demonizing other incels ?
Alright, not very original but I’ll take it. Now do a)!
Don’t look at Steam discussions huh
Probably smart
I still don’t see them & their concerns are pretty valid to be fair
People look at them? The moat I have contact witg the general Steam Community is the artwork secrion beneath some games on the community hub.
Beyond bored of both sides hijacking games for their identity me so specia outlooks. Get a personally FFS. Oh no she’s a bit hench for a woman. She’s be training and killing monsters most her life. On no people mad because woman in game. literally wgaf Geralt was awesome but the arc has ended for now nice and naturally.
If you read the books you’d be pretty excited about Ceri being the protagonist as in the books she just goes off into the sunset whereas now we get to see her return pick up the mantle and possibly get some new settings in France and England.
dude some even said they made her ugly … she looks like fucking Tricia Helfer!
The ugly comments are fucking hilarious. She’s a perfectly attractive older woman at this point, and quite honestly, if I’m going to be forced to take up her mantle as the player character, I’ll have a much easier time identifying with a hardened older woman as a Witcher than a young adult girl with perpetually running mascara.
I didn’t enjoy playing the Ciri bits at all in TW3, but this version of Ciri is about as palatable as it could have been, and I’m open to it. Especially if I can customize her playstyle like I could Geralt, so that it’s not just fast, whippy, lightning zippy-zappy whatever-the-fuck that was in TW3.
I hate how everything has to be stupid culture war nonsense these days.
I’ll probably get the game but be disappointed I don’t get to play as Geralt.
I’d also be disappointed to get a new Horizon game where I don’t get to play as Aloy. Does that make me a misandrist?
No, but being disappointed you don’t play as Geralt means you missed half the point of 3.
Let the dude retire to his life of cheating on his girlfriend, damn
Ciri?
EDIT: guessed it.
I read this and all I can think of is that voice line from the first area (outside visima) where the little girl asks “can girls become witche’s too?”
I guess it doesn’t really fit within the story of the original, but if they make a new story with new themes I don’t see much of a problem. But no one really likes ret-cons
The canonical answer to “can girls become witchers” is no one properly knows. Citi was raised and trained by them but they didn’t do the other stuff (the mutagens, trial of grasses or special diet) because they both didn’t know what it would do to a girl because it had never been done to a girl and because even if it worked exactly like it would for a boy it causes sterility and she’s the last member of the royal line of Cintra.
But the time of The Witcher 3, she’s already older than it’s normally done, so any attempt to do it would additionally have unknown results because presumably they usually start changing them from childhood for a reason, rather than taking in adult trainees.
No no you see it is because I have dedicated the last 20 years of my life to Witcher lore and have memorized not only every line but every plot in the series and books, and you see, Ciri is supposed to be much [choice: less/more] powerful than this trailer makes her appear! I’m boycotting this game and recommend everyone else does too! I’m tired of them shitting on lore with woke propaganda!
Anyway, I think that covers it.
Ah I see you too are a “true” gamer
How come how the absolute worst men are allowed to represent the entire gende?
Being loud and offensive attracts more attention than being normal
I feel like the left should know better though
A chain is not stronger than its weakest link or something
That doesn’t really work though… You could say the same thing about any demographic, and it would be correctly called out as racist/sexist/homophobic/etc
actually pretty good analogy. like, whole generations of fucked up men come from the idea that if you just give up on the bad ones they disappear and nothing will come of it
I don’t understand the hate for women in video games, If the next Doom game comes out with a female protagonist I’d be going “HELL YEAH RIP ITS HEAD OFF!!!” the same way I do in Doom Eternal
Generally speaking im absolutely for a better representation of women and minorities. However, theres on criterium for it: it must fit with the lore. If the lore makes sense with a woman, go for it. If you just replace the main character with a woman, but don’t adjust the lore in a way that its clear that its an entire new storyline or so, than I’m against swapping out the main character. Inclusion shouldn’t lower the quality of a game.
So maybe it’s not actually the DEI itself that makes the game bad but actually the shitty game design and writing that makes the game bad and lore suck.
That’s a pretty good description. Inclusion for the same of inclusion sucks.
Agreed.
Ciri is a huge part of the Witcher games.
They prepped us for her becoming a Witcher or something adjacent to it in TW3.
There’s no conspiracy to turn you gay or trans here. It’s just a continuation of the series.
Though talking about the lore, that had better not be regular witcher alchemy in that potion. She explicitly hasn’t had the special diet, trial of grasses or the mutations so witcher potions should basically be poison she can’t process at all.
Canonically she’s witcher trained but not subjected to any of the mutations, but she’s also of the Elder Blood and a Source. So compared to a traditional witcher you’d expect her to be slower and weaker (because she lacks the mutations) but have greater access to magic (because she’s a Source). You’d also expect her to use most witcher tools and gadgets, but not potions (because they should just be poison to her, not having the altered gut of a witcher).
Don’t know anything about the Witcher, but assuming that it is as you said, than that’s a good thing.
Don’t understand it as a rational thing, understand the hate as a cancer with its growth being juiced and accelerated by the ruling class because incels are the easiest demographic to scam into violently acting against their own interests.
A cancerous process is by definition irrational from the perspective of the body it acts upon, the reason the cancer exists and grows is not because of a motive, desire or need but rather because the cancerous process consumes all the space and oxygen in a room at a faster rate than anything else can compete with while remaining invisible to the body as a threat.
Toxicity towards women displaces other topics and viewpoints specifically because the men pushing those topics want to monopolize the discussion and framing and often centrist types don’t challenge that at all because of some self-perceived high ground to tolerating intolerance (not something you tend to believe in if you have experienced serious hate).
From shitty YouTuber influencers.
A guy from work constantly tells me how I should feel about a game based on a YouTuber he watches. He doesn’t play it, he just parrot that shit. Often it’s the most sexist, disgusting take.
And most of these influencers are outright basement dwellers with pride.
So like, they’re getting shitty takes from shitty human beings who are proud of being shitty?
Don’t understand the hate. I also prefer sexy characters as I dont prioritize realism in games and am looking for escapism but that isn’t the game. If you want a game with sexy characters, there are plenty.
I often mod games to add that asthetic. I’ll probably wait for this to be on a big sale once there are such mods for that reason.
Don’t like what they’re selling? Don’t play it. Or mod it. Don’t screech on the internet that it’s not fair to you. You didn’t make the thing.
So much rage. It’s like complaining a romantic comedy isn’t an action movie.
joking (mostly)
I also like sexy characters and I’m livid every time I see a scantily clad woman without a male (or enby) counterpart.
I WANT MORE SEXY MEN IN VIDEO GAMES!
It’s not even that, she still looks good. They’re mad she isn’t a college girl in a white shirt anymore. She has armor and an actual woman’s face, the horror.
I started the Witcher 3 twice. Got bored with it both times. Seeing the trailer for the Witcher 4 is actuslly making me go back to finish the Witcher 3.
The only people who are triggered are you guys. You’re dealing with trolls who only say that shit to get your goat. They don’t give a shit that they’re playing as Ciri. They’re not even racist for real. They just wanna hear you do your hardest to lash out right back at them for their lazy input.
Yeah they play the loser and we play the woke angel, it’s kind of win-win because they get whatever it is they get, and we get to feel smart and superior.
AI has kind of taken the fun out of it, though… like for real, convincing sounding, dog whistle sprinkled, trollish duck speak is so easy to generate, I struggle to care about interactions on main socials. I mean I don’t go there, but if I did…
Isn’t female witcher technically a witch? 🤔
In general English usage I think you may be right.
In the world of “The Witcher” (which is translated from Polish) there are both male and female mages with inborn abilities. Sometimes they are called sorcerers and sorceresses, sometimes they are called mages, sometimes they are called something related to their specialisation of magic, and sometimes wise women who do magic but didn’t go to the academy are called witches.
Witchers, however, are not mages. They are made from ordinary humans and are gene manipulated and highly trained to be monster hunters. They have some witcher powers that are related to runes, and they make potions that have side effects only they can survive thanks to their manipulated bodies. Witchers at birth do not have special potential. Though a lot of little witcher trainees die, so you could argue they are artificially selected in that way.
Ciri is kind of neither of those, but she has special abilities related to space and time manipulation. In the new trailer it seems she drinks a witcher potion, but from what we know she never underwent the manipulation that witchers did.
IIRC, the original polish “witcher” was made by taking word for “witch” and changing the grammatical gender to be masculine. Evidently this was not an existing word meaning “male witch”, and so was better translated as “witcher” (ie a made up word clearly derived from “witch”) instead of “witch” or “wizard”.
Cdpr confirmed that she underwent the trials and is now a Witcher.
Weren’t the mutagens for the trials destroyed in canon? It will be interesting to see how they get around this.
The Wolf school had it’s mutagens destroyed, yes. But in the trailer, it appears Ciri is wearing a feline medallion, implying that she is somehow affiliated with the School of the Cat now.
Ahhh okay. I missed that bit.
Could be that she used her space time powers to find a more stable version. Or who knows all the crossovers could be canon and she grabbed some bullshit from monster hunter or some shit.
She might have done the trials with another school. In the trailer, she is wearing a feline witcher medallion, not a wolf one. I don’t think the lore ever mentions the School of the Cat having their mutagens destroyed.
Im not really into the lore, more of a Warhammer fantasy guy I was just making a guess based off of the sheer number of crossovers. Seriously that shit is absurd, its like a reverse Scooby-Doo.
I’m not too far into the lore either, but the Witcher audiobooks jsut happened to be up next in my listening queue, so I guess I’ll find out about all that pretty soon.
I don’t think so.
I think being a Witcher is a distinct moniker In universe for the training/vocation of hunting magical monsters.
The usual male analogues in media for witch are wizards and/or warlocks
that implies that men are witch-er than a female witch? :D
