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‘‘Down to the newest baby’’? That’s the most inflammatory statement I’ve ever heard. Is there anything more evill?
Seriously. I really don’t get the kind of mental contortion necessary to actually believe the kind of nonsense she is conveying.
Not in the eu except if youre in germany. I live in sweden and while the politicians dont support palestine, on the streets theres huge support.
Czech Republic is somehow pro-Israel too. Even intellectuals. If you go protest for Gaza you’ll be quite alone.
Huh thats sad, hungary is also pro-israel but thats a given because its a piece of shit country.
Based on what law in Germany do you think you would be arrested?
There’s a good chance you’d be contacted by the police for saying it in the UK.
Someone faced criminal charges for teaching a pug to do a Nazi salute, I can definitely see the British doing this.
This isn’t the first time I’ve had to debunk this and unfortunately probably won’t be the last.
This case had nothing to do with the pug or the salute, he faced charges because he made a video where he repeatedly said “g*s the Jews” which is an explicit call to racial violence.
And while we might be able to look at that specific case and agree that it wasn’t meant seriously, as soon as you set that president any hate group will start spouting genuine calls to violence and just stick a funny dog video with it and make the argument it’s just a joke too. So we either set strict standard that makes it very hard to get away with actual calls for a second holocaust, but catches one guy just making s joke as well, or we make it so the one guy making a joke is fine, but let’s Nazis call for the death of undesirables without consequence.
Well said. I never saw it that way before.
In the interests of being specific, that was Scotland, which operates a separate legal system from England and Wales.
This is pretty bad, but you wouldn’t be arrested for saying it in either Australia or NZ.
The truth is bad enough, no need to make shit up.
August 28, 2024 - Acclaimed Journalist Charged With ‘Anti-Semitism’
For retweeting two tweets on X critical of Israel, famed Australian journalist Mary Kostakidis is facing charges of allegedly violating the country’s Racial Discrimination Act.
These are tweets not calling for the murder of Israeli babies like Zionists constantly do, but for the simple right of Palestinians to their colonized land.
both of which contain a video of a speech by Hezbollah leader Hasan Nasrallah in which he allegedly called for the ethnic cleansing of Israel.
Why would you post a link that contradicts what you’re saying?
“These are tweets not calling for the murder of Israeli babies like Zionists constantly do, but for the simple right of Palestinians to their colonized land.”
Do you know what the term
allegedly
means?
We both know that’s journalist speak for “this is what happened but I don’t want to be sued”
Besides, would that be out of character for Hesbollah to say?
Yes that would be very out of character.
Did he call for the extermination of all Israeli children like the person in the tweet did yes or no?
No, half the time it’s “Someone made it the fuck up, and I know it’s a lie, but I want to say it anyway”
I just blocked all content that covers those topics, my timeline is pure & has only content I want
Oh my god, I was just wondering about that. Thanks for letting us know!
Wow glad you can ignore genocide. Hope you’re ignored when shit hits the fan for you.
“When they came for the Palestinians, I did not speak out, because I had blocked that content.”
Well I acknowledge that it is genocide. I personally am against it. I won’t do more and I don’t need to know more. Why let your life be driven by negativity when you can’t change it either way?
What I can change is to focus on stuff that is more urgent for me personally.
An ocean is made up of drops. You won’t do anything like many many others. If y’all would act together you’d have the power to affect change.
Focus on what you want, it just makes you a shitty person
I am not a shitty person but egoistic which is only a small difference.
And I also don’t know what to do at this conflict. The one side wants to commit genocide the other one does commit genocide after they tried many other things.
Still you’re here.
I wish I could do that too. But that feels too much like looking away. But I don’t read every post that comes in.
People might look a bit weird at you in Germany, but you would not be arrested.
They arrested a jew for holding a sign saying “From the river to the sea, we demand equality”, for “inciting racial hatred”
If you live in Germany, I suspect you haven’t been to a protest.
That’s a forbidden saying in Germany and has nothing to do with the text in this post and you know that.
They banned the phrase as part of a wider effort to crack down on pro-Palestine protests, and have arrested tons of protestors who have signs like “Freedom for Palestine,” and “Palestinian children deserve to grow up.” . If you don’t know that, you’ve never been to a protest that the police decided to shut down.
Those who don’t move, don’t notice their chains.
This has nothing to do with the post or what I said. Stop changing the topic.
You said that someone would not be arrested for saying what was in OP in Germany, I gave examples of people being arrested for saying far, far less.
“Far less” is unfortunately not a judicial category.
People will not getting arrested for the text in OPs post, just stop spreading misinformation.
You think a country which arrests people for saying “From the river to the sea Palestine will be free” is going to allow calls for the wholesale slaughter of all Israeli children?
So, you think that the demand for freedom for Palestine is worse than condoning the murder of babies and guilt by association? O.o
Edit: Care to explain, why the phrase is forbidden in Germany?
The “from the river to the sea…” phrase is forbidden as it supposedly denies the right of the existence of the Jewish state Israel which, in Germany, is considered as a special form of antisemitism.
It was a rhethorical question and AFAIK not technically correct (it’s supposedly the slogan of Hamas, which is classified as a terrorist organization - that’s a simple way of constricting German freedom of speech).
But yeah: my point was whether the OP said about israelis wouldn’t be considered antisemitic in Germany.
According to the German Wikipedia article on that phrase, it was forbidden as it is a Hamas slogan, but only in the context of endorsement of terrorism, not in general. So there have been cases, where the use was not prohibited on a rally, as it’s organisers made explicitly clear that they don’t endorse Hamas nor terrorism.
Its allegedly is a Hamas slogan.
And it still discriminates against all legitimate uses. Because you can never be sure if the police still decides to break up the protest after such a chant. And when the police breaks up the protest (with the possibility of violence) after the parole has been used and then it turns out that a judge later decides that it wasn’t illegal, it’s probably less of a consolidation after the fact.
It is not about what I think is worse, but what the courts think.
I can’t explain, but I am also not a representative of German courts.
Ok. You think you wouldn’t get arrested for that kind of sentiment when the “from the river” phrase gets you arrested?
I could explain it to you. From several standpoints. The official justification jusyifies the prohibition by claiming that it is an active appeal to kill all jews in Israel. About as horrible a statement as what that israeli woman states about palestinians.
