'God alone' saved me, says Donald Trump
www.telegraph.co.uk
Donald Trump has said “God alone” saved his life from an assassination attempt, as he called Americans to unite against political violence.

Looks like someone took some shots at prez candidate Donald Trump at a rally in PA. From the videos I’ve seen, it looks like he did get grazed.

  • TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee
    2405·
    6 months ago

    Guess some of those 2nd Ammendment guys might be “trying to do something about it” eh Donnie?

    This is what you get when you preach hate 24/7. This isn’t a gameshow.

  • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.worldEnglish
    19116·
    6 months ago

    Half the comments here are proving that people on the right aren’t the only ones who can indulge in stupid conspiracy theories.

    It’s depressing as fuck.

    • Queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      555·
      6 months ago

      Q-Anon level thinking that somehow Trump is a mastermind of this. The dude who can’t hide stolen files properly, can’t lie on his taxes properly, and loses money on a casino, somehow has the ability to rig a false flag assassination attempt.

      Are NeoLibs that so far into the Kool-Aid that Dipshit Trump is also a grandmaster 5D chess player of this, while not being able to string words together? It’s not like he’s even been a good actor.

      • Zess@lemmy.world
        302·
        6 months ago

        Trump isn’t even the mastermind of his own bowel movements. If this was staged it was all planned by his Russian handlers.

      • pivot_root@lemmy.world
        193·
        6 months ago

        It’s fun to indulge in, and it doesn’t change the fact that shit is about to hit the fan, regardless of whether the shooter was someone with a legitimate desire or a paid gunman. Trump was just given and used a golden ticket to both rally republicans to vote for him, and to incite his diehard followers into another insurrection.

        • Queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          134·
          6 months ago

          Sure, but I don’t think being an ironic conspiracy theorist on the levels of Q-Anon is going to make anyone seem better.

          Trump was already going to do that. Trump would do it if someone sneezed on him. They already considered him a martyr. They already wanted/have an Enabling Act. The only thing this changes is a bit less blood in him, and 3 people died. Trump already had higher polling numbers.

          Fascism is here. Get ready.

          • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
            42·
            6 months ago

            I’d imagine that there are a lot of rather confused individuals in a number of countries, and when tempers run high around politics…shrugs

            I don’t know if the US would be particularly bad. Would need to have some kind of way to quantify that.

      • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
        41·
        6 months ago

        A “false flag assassination attempt” is not as hard to rig if you know it won’t be properly investigated.

      • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldEnglish
        97·
        6 months ago

        It doesn’t take a mastermind. Dictators faking assassination attempts to garner support isn’t new.

        • Queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          135·
          6 months ago

          “All right ear me big sniper guy, it’s going to be an attempted assassination, the biggest ever, you are going to shoot me close, like danger close but don’t worry I’m the best president, really I’m the best and you are the best sniper, the best sniper in the whole country. So you shoot me near the ear, near enough that blood comes out, I know scary stuff, but we are tough guys, the toughest so you do it and I resist and together we make the best attempted staged assassination ever”

          • Shamelessly stolen from a blog
        • ABCDE@lemmy.world
          42·
          6 months ago

          Your gullibility making you believe a conspiracy theory over your own eyes.

    • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
      3713·
      6 months ago

      What I find sad is that either option is equally plausible. That’s how low we have sunk.

        • MisterFrog@lemmy.world
          31·
          6 months ago

          0.01% chance based on what?

          I think being unsure either way makes perfect sense. You gotta admit it doesn’t really line up with Trump’s character to be posing for the cameras if he’s actually being shot at. Though tou’re not wrong to say, that that isn’t proof of anything. It’s subjective feeling.

          But, I think saying it’s entirely unlikely this was orchestrated isn’t right either.

            • MisterFrog@lemmy.world
              2·
              6 months ago

              I’m not claiming anything. It’s just really, really early after the event.

              My choice of words was not ideal, and I apologize for that.

              I’m just saying being unsure of what happened isn’t crazy so soon after the event.

              You’re out here saying what is and is not likely based on your own feelings about what you feel is true.

              It’s simply too early to say anything definitive about what level of conspiracy existed (in the traditional sense, of more than one person, conspiring).

              I am not saying this was staged. I’m saying you’re jumping the gun, to say so confidently it wasn’t.

    • fxt_ryknow@lemmy.world
      1811·
      6 months ago

      On this topic as a whole, it’s also proving people on the left are in favor of gun violence…

      • Stovetop@lemmy.world
        173·
        6 months ago

        Not like it really needs proving. When Marx writes about “revolution,” he means bloody, violent revolution.

        Anyone advocating revolution needs guns to back it up or else they’re just full of hot air.

        • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          6 months ago

          Elections were meant to be bloodless revolutions. Unfortunately with First Past The Post voting, the right options were not available to vote for. But we can change how we vote. We can make peaceful revolution possible with a more representative electoral system.

        • SeaJ@lemm.ee
          33·
          6 months ago

          Not every time at all. Franco, Salazar, and Pinochet were not defeated via guns.

    • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
      12·
      6 months ago

      What’s worse is that the MAGA crowd has Trump and some other figures intentionally playing conspiracies up and adding weight to them. The guys on the left don’t even have the excuse of Biden and company bullshitting.

    • mrmanager@lemmy.today
      58·
      6 months ago

      But why would you even think that people on the left are different from people on the right? This is why I’m not into politics myself. Because it all builds on some fake idea that one side is right about everything, even good people, while the other is wrong about everything, and probably are bad people as well.

      In reality, both sides are very similar and have much more incommon with eachother than they have with the politicians they are trying to support.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
    1708·
    6 months ago

    Mr Trump could be seen ducking for cover behind the lectern.

    I like attempted assassination victims that don’t duck for cover.

    • ameancow@lemmy.world
      261·
      5 months ago

      I wonder how much we’re going to hear about the poor person who got shot in the head right behind him, or if they’re just incidental margin notes in history, overshadowed by the big WWE media theater that is Trump. Reports are saying at least two crowd members have died.

      edit: the family of the victim has given an update that Trump hasn’t even attempted to reach out to them. And also, the guy was an avid nutcase, nazi and racist. The world won’t be worse-off, we can sleep easy.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
        301·
        6 months ago

        Oh Trump will absolutely bring them up at every single rally to froth up the crowd. Because he may be the martyr they care about the most, but the martyrs who actually died will be great ammunition (I can’t think of a more appropriate word, sorry) to rile up the crowd.

        • pivot_root@lemmy.world
          123·
          6 months ago

          That is assuming there is another rally, and today’s incident wasn’t just the catalyst for a Jan 6 sequel. Knowing his supporters, I’m not holding my breath, unfortunately.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
            141·
            6 months ago

            Considering the number of people here claiming this was Trump staging a false flag, I am absolutely certain there are a similarly large number of people on the right saying this was Biden trying to assassinate Trump and something must be done. So I hope not.

            • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
              41·
              6 months ago

              Republicans have blamed Joe Biden for the attempted assassination tonight, accusing the president of whipping up opposition to Donald Trump.

              JD Vance, who is one of the frontrunners to be Trump’s running mate, said: “Today is not just some isolated incident. The central premise of the Biden campaign is that President Donald Trump is an authoritarian fascist who must be stopped at all costs.”

              “That rhetoric led directly to President Trump’s attempted assassination,” he added.

              Mike Collins, a Republican congressman from Georgia, said: “The Republican District Attorney in Butler County, PA, should immediately file charges against Joseph R. Biden for inciting an assassination.”

              He also tweeted that Mr Biden “sent the orders”.

              • Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.worldEnglish
                4·
                6 months ago

                Prosecuting the president for stochastic terrorism? That’s a precedent they really don’t want to set with Trump as their candidate.

                That they are pushing it is evidence they don’t think they’ll have to follow the rule of law if they win.

                • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
                  3·
                  6 months ago

                  That they are pushing it is evidence they don’t think they’ll have to follow the rule of law if they win.

                  They won’t. The Supreme Court already determined that.

              • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
                3·
                6 months ago

                All I’m hearing is that they think Biden told the truth and used the power the Heritage Foundation SCOTUS explicitly gave him, and now they’re inexplicably butthurt about it.

            • pivot_root@lemmy.world
              42·
              6 months ago

              Unfortunately, the number is likely going to be a lot higher.

              I’m pretty sure a lot of the people here are (or at least me) are being joking/sarcastic about the false flag conspiracy. For us Lemmings, there’s no emotional stake in these events, whereas his supporters will be angered over anyone even attempting to kill their fascist idol…

              • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
                72·
                6 months ago

                I’m pretty sure a lot of the people here are (or at least me) are being joking/sarcastic about the false flag conspiracy.

                I’m not sure of that at all, especially when emotions are running high.

                I’m not absolutely discounting the possibility they they somehow found some schlub to die in a fake assassination attempt, but I’m also not going to come up with conspiracy theories until there’s been some time to go over evidence and analyze the situation.

                • pivot_root@lemmy.world
                  4·
                  6 months ago

                  I’m also not going to come up with conspiracy theories until there’s been some time to go over evidence and analyze the situation.

                  Respect for that. It’s a reasonable and rational response to today’s series of events, despite the temptations of role-playing as a conspiracy theorist to escape from having to think about the hypothetical consequences of said events.

      • Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        31·
        6 months ago

        They chose to go to a rally to support a man who wants to be a “dictator on day one” they made their choice.

  • TipRing@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1222·
    6 months ago

    Well things are about to get a whole lot worse. That raised fist is going to be printed on all the right-wing crazy stuff and they will use this to justify violence against anyone opposing Trump.

      • finkrat@lemmy.world
        211·
        6 months ago

        Would absolutely not care about Trump. Would absolutely care about the incensed conservative mob with minimal brain cells, rage and guns starting shit

        • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
          91·
          6 months ago

          Their rage is mostly impotent. When push comes to shove, I think the vast majority of them will stay home and continue posting on Truth Social.

            • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
              81·
              6 months ago

              That was the best they had from all around the country. Mostly thieves and vandals, stealing a laptop and a podium, smearing shit on the walls. Very few actually prepared for violence. If shit went down nationwide, those few violent ones would not be together in one place, so they’d pose far less of a threat.

        • Buffalox@lemmy.world
          51·
          6 months ago

          Unless there is someone to direct that rage, they’ll have no idea what to do with it, or where to direct it.

          • finkrat@lemmy.world
            21·
            6 months ago

            There will always be people that direct that rage, Trump is a cult leader but he’s not the only influencer

            • le cat@lemm.eeEnglish
              21·
              6 months ago

              trump is a fortuitous puppet. he ran for president in the past too, but he didn’t win because the times weren’t right for it.

    • Drusas@kbin.run
      283·
      6 months ago

      That’s called a false flag attack. I could believe it, but I could also believe it was a sincere attack.

      • pivot_root@lemmy.world
        142·
        6 months ago

        Being serious about it for a moment, it’s extremely unlikely that it’s a false flag attack. It’s fun to joke about the idea, but the reality is that it doesn’t appear to be staged, and he’s far too much of a coward to agree to have somebody shoot at him.

        Besides that, there’s plenty of politically-unaffiliated groups or individuals who would probably want him gone just for how his last term contributed to the abortion bans, reunification of church and state (in some states), government corruption, etc.

        • ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world
          21·
          6 months ago

          there’s also plenty of fence sitters and centrists who I sincerely believe would vote for him on tough guy vibes alone, despite him being a coward

        • IzzyScissor@lemmy.world
          21·
          6 months ago

          Would he be told about this plan? It’d certainly be more convincing if he didn’t know, and was set up by the RNC.

        • Valmond@lemmy.world
          1·
          6 months ago

          No one needs to actually shoot at him, he can just have a capsule of fake blood in his hand and smear it on himself at the right moment. It’s so easy even he can do it.

          Could also have been a real shooter.

        • HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world
          11·
          6 months ago

          Hes fully too much of a coward to be shot at.

          But you’re assuming he was shot at. Ducked, hidden away from camera, then blood on him.

          No one is ducking a bullet

    • JimSamtanko@lemm.ee
      3012·
      6 months ago

      Some? They anyone with a functional brain that has been paying attention. Nothing the dude has ever done has been honest.

    • pivot_root@lemmy.world
      134·
      6 months ago

      From the article:

      Trump stood up and held his fist in the air with what appeared to be blood dripping down his face.

      Several secret service agents surrounded him as he put his hand up and appeared to shout “fight” to his supporters who began cheering.

      An excellent PR stunt and call to action for his violent insurrectionist supporters, if you ask me.

    • TipRing@lemmy.worldEnglish
      41·
      6 months ago

      Right after meeting with Orban who just met with Putin? I don’t know if I really think that, but I would say it’s possible.

  • corus_kt@lemmy.world
    558·
    6 months ago

    This fucking shooter could set behind democracy in the US for dozens of years. Land the shots and you martyr him, miss and you galvanize his support. Seriously the conservatives were starting to shift away from the far right after Epstein documents and Project 2025. Now deep state wackos will NEVER go away and resort to crazier armed shit. Seeing people comment that the shooter ‘was so close’ is insane and makes them no better than political extremists.

  • umbrella@lemmy.ml
    473·
    6 months ago

    if bolsonaro is any indication, this is just turning him into a martyr.

    really terrible job by whoever tried it.