• andros_rex@lemmy.world
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    I might not leave the country, but I’ll have to leave my state. I wonder if next Friday after work I’ll need to load up everything I can fit in my car and drive as far north as possible. It’s terrifying that my rights as a transgender human vanish will vanish overnight where I live. I’ve heard of bounties in Odessa.

    Knowing that most of the people I live and work around are happily voting for a child rapist has broken my brain. The folks protesting at the Planned Parenthood (abortion is already illegal here) are going to vote for a man that’s probably paid for multiple abortions. It’s a sickness I can’t fathom.

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      fully agree. hope you don’t have to move… but for some miraculous incomprehensible reason the race is a statistical tie

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      I don’t understand how there are undecided voters this election… I understand trump voters. Ride or die republicans, bigots, wealthy people that want more money for themselves. They are fucked up, but they make sense.

      But how are you undecided? What are you weighing up. If you’re not in the aforementioned groups, what single positive thing does trump offer?

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        I’ve seen some people try the free speech angle. But that isn’t true either. Neither he nor Elon are actually about free speech.

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          No, they’re inherently more anti free speech than the people they’re puroportedly against, anyone using that justification is either ignorant or only cares about not getting in trouble for being a bigot

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        My guess is the Palestinian issue which puts people on the fence. Both parties would still support the Israeli government.

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          Both parties would still support the Israeli government.

          Exactly, and Trump is so much worse in everything else, not to mention that he’d also be worse in the very Palestinian issue you’re concerned about! Even with this issue in the equation I still don’t understand it

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            Well, I’m not American so I cannot feel the existential dilemma between picking a genocider or ride or die genocider. But if I am electing, I certainly don’t want to feel being forced to pick either two. I imagine many Americans probably feel uncomfortable with that as well.

            Additionally, another factor with Trump still polling remarkably well is because a lot of people perceive the economy under Trump to be better. Take it as you will, but people under economic pressure feel forced to pick the extreme. People typically value economic security over liberty, unfortunately.

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      in the states it’s so easy. you just choose between the status quo or the obvious deranged evil. here we vote on the lower positions and nobody ever knows who any of them are and we don’t have proportional so everyone just votes by party and the names are largely meaningless

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    With a more representative electoral system, we could have more then two buttons. First-past-the-post voting is mathematically flawed and will always result in a two party system, which is why we must replace it as soon as we can.

    Yall believe in democracy right?

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      Naw there’s just a bunch of people who won’t admit they’re voting for Trump when you ask them. They also don’t want their friends/community thinking they’re voting for a Democrat either so they just lie and say they’re undecided or even more likely Independent™ because that sounds cool anyway. They know they’re voting for a fascist but also want to have their cake too and not publicly admit it.

      They may not even want the fascist part. But they’re voting for Trump because they think one day they’ll make over $500k/yr and they don’t want to pay “200% more taxes” (it’s actually 2%) when that day inevitably comes. The rest of them secretly would rather kill their children than let a black woman run our country, but they’d never say it.

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        Statistically, that’s just not true. Just look at the differences from the polls, the margin between Harris and Trump has moved quite some percentage points back and forth. E.g. after RFKs endorsement, more undecided voters went to Trump and after the debate, more went back to Harris.

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        actually, i think they know they will never make 500k a year. they are voting for trump because he hates they people they do, and he validates their racist behavior.

        they also believe some of the lies he sprouts about immigrants stealing their jobs and being a drain on the system.

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      I have a friend who voted for Trump and now he is undecided. Now he is saying he isn’t voting for anyone. I guess that’s better than voting for Trump. He lives in AZ. So that is sorta a win.

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      sadly yes. there are people who are still on the fence. given that 70million people will look the other way and vote for him despite the lies, dementia, racism, Facism, Nazism, narcissism, sexism, felonies, fraud, racketeering, sexual harassment, etc. I’m not surprised a few million are on the fence.

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      Apparently you’re a nazi if you vote for either, so you should just not vote

      • totally not an astroturfer
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    Ignoring everything else here prosecutor is a net negative and “Felon” isn’t a bad thing necessarily. If you want to you can criticize Trump without propping up law enforcement.

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      Okay but in this case, felon is a bad thing because the crimes trump has been convicted of are serious offenses that should make him ineligible to even be president.

      trump wasn’t convicted on 1 or 2 charges that were pushed on him by racist fascist pigs. He is the racist fascist pig. Who was convicted of scores of felonies.

      It is a bad thing. Necessarily.

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        Yes trumps crimes were bad no argument from me. It’s just so many of these felon vs prosecutor memes and similar things really play into demonization of “felons” as a whole.

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    I’m going to go out on a pretty long limb here and suggest the possibly that they’re not actually undecided at all.

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      I’ve read (not sure how true) that it’s not necessarily undecided between Harris and Trump - more undecided about even showing up to vote.

      I honestly don’t know what’s worse.

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    He’s not a Nazi; he’s a fascist. Nazi refers to a specific political party. Fascist is more general.

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      The main difference, as I understand, is that national socialism is inherently racist and puts the (Aryan) race on top of the ideology, everything else must submit to the benefit of the (Aryan) race, whereas fascism puts the benefit of the state on top.

      https://historyplex.com/difference-between-fascism-nazism

      Trump, as far as I can judge from beyond the pond, is still claiming to put the state, or the United States of America, first, like a fascist would do. His hate speech against immigrants still serves the narrative of them being bad for the US, not of them being disadvantageous towards the benefit of the Aryan race.

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        Oh, I’m not saying he’s any better than a Nazi. Just being pedantic.

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    An ode to the increasingly large gap in education within the US. You reap what you sow, and that lack of worker rights and education along with the promotion and celebration of extreme competition is showing. Not that it isn’t costly, a good education doesn’t even seem to last a generation nowadays.

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    not to be in support of trumb, but if someones records are spotless that is inherently suspicious to me. is she even allowed to run for president if she hasn’t visited a sex trafficker?

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      Her record isn’t spotless, but when you compare someone to trump it might as well look spotless because the context of trump makes it look so clean

      I’m not fully knowledgeable about her record since I have more pressing things to worry about rather than researching harris, but as a queer person, I am aware of some of her shortcomings regarding queer rights.

      She has explicitly tried to prevent trans people from receiving gender affirming care when in prison and challenged a ruling in favor of a transwoman to do so.

      Source: (washington blade)

      She also supported trans women in men’s prisons which is an extra horrific experience for a trans person, since queer people are generally more likely to be assaulted, raped, and sexually assaulted in prison. Trans women in men’s prisons have it the worst.

      This happened in the past, but with her not explicitly making trans rights a campaign issue in the face of how much discrimination they are currently facing, it is concerning.