• MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    The reason why he hasn’t sued her for libel is because he knows her lawyers would mop the floor with him with the disclosure.

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        No, “many” Westerners are more enlightened than that, but the ones that aren’t always shout the loudest.

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          I’m sorry to disappoint you but a sizeable proportion of westerners in my humble experience are racist towards Arabs and Muslims. It’s literally the core of the platform under which the extreme right wing thrives in Europe

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          There are both many racist westerners and many enlightened ones.

          Beware the hazard of minimizing how many of our countrymen are extremely racist. It’s more prevalent than you might think. We know exactly what Elon is saying because we all know an asshole like that.

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          The thing about many is that many people can think one thing while many can think otherwise. The fact that I still get thanked by Arab strangers for treating them like people indicates that it wasn’t some tiny minority of westerners. From what I’ve heard from Arabs and people mistaken for Arabs (such as Iranians and Muslim desi folks) a loud and significant minority were/are actively racist towards Arabs that was significantly larger during the early 00s. But also there’s a lot of passive racism, stuff like assuming Arabs don’t want to be friends, neighbors, or colleagues. Stuff like assuming Arabs’ views on various things.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    She is killing it. He made a huge fucking mistake lying about her on video to the world. She just wanted to be left alone and go to college. Now she’s out to expose him.

    And he really should have known better. This is a woman who, without any need to do so, put it on the court record that she disowned him at a formality hearing to register a name change a couple of years ago. No one asked her, no one expected her to say it, she just wanted a legal record of her disowning one of the richest men in the world when she could have just waited for him to die and see if she inherited anything.

    Check out her interview. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elon-musk-transgender-daughter-vivian-wilson-interview-rcna163665

    Before that, I could only imagine what sort of horrible father he was to prompt her to do that. Now I know exactly what sort of horrible father he was.

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      I really love that she keeps owning him on threads, too. It’s just that extra little twist of the knife. She’s proof that we don’t have to suck just because our families do.

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      “I lost my son, essentially,” Musk said. He used Wilson’s birth name, also known as a deadname for transgender people, and said she was “dead, killed by the woke mind virus.”

      i don’t have kids but i can’t even comprehend someone saying something like that about their own child

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        Robert Evan’s (AKA Podcast Daddy) had a piece about this. His denial of his daughter’s transition is of a piece with his pro-natalist stance and his desire to colonize space. He is trying to become immortal. His child transitioning marks her as her own person, rather than an extension of him, which reinforces the fact that he will die one day.

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          How does that reinforce it? I want to be immortal too, but I want my kids to be independent and strong.

          I can’t wrap my head around how someone who wants to be a transhuman would have a problem with transgender humans. How does he not see that leopard coming to eat his face?

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        That’s nothing compared to what she’s said he’s said to her directly. No exact quotes, but she made it pretty clear that he was constantly saying homophobic things to her. And that was before she transitioned and he just thought she was gay.

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        I’m no psychologist or sociologist, but it seems that most of the people who treat their kids this way had kids because of external expectations or for status. They treat their kids like property or as an extension of themselves. Raising them to be cis no matter what is not about their child’s well-being, it’s about how having a trans child makes them look in the eyes of their bigoted, greedy, status-seeking, peers. When their kids come out as trans, they see this as a personal attack on their place in the pecking order.

        In general, they treat even their cis children like shit, because they don’t think of their children as people, children are just assets in what they think is some kind of cosmic dick measuring contest.

        It’s incomprehensible because it’s pathological and generally sick.

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        Luckily, you sound like you consider kids to be their own individuals and not little copies of yourself for you to control like puppets.

        Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for every parent.

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        He’s just building up his conservative cred.

        Harden the mind against silly weak things like compassion: check

        Treat your family like property: check

        “Woke mind virus”: lol

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        I can’t imagine saying stuff like this about someone else’s kids, let alone my own. I have a non-binary kid, who I love with all my heart. The only thing my wife and I want them to be is happy. I get that having your kid tell you that they’re the wrong gender is hard to deal with - I don’t want to minimize that - but it’s not like it’s harder than what the kids themselves are dealing with.

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      What’s the situation you’re referring to about him lying about her on video? I know he’s said a lot of shitty stuff about her but I’m not aware of the context of that sentence

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      She’s Elon’s kid, and she had to suffer through being trans in a society that doesn’t broadly accept it (and at least one parent who doesn’t), so she’s got a lot going against her, but she sure seems to speak out with self confidence, so I hope she’s one of those who was able to just grow from the hardships.

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        Yea, I mean she is 20 years old and has her shit together more than many of my friends who are at least a decade older. She’s definitely alright.

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      The interview she gave with NBC says she’s a college student studying languages, so if nothing else, she could have a good life as a translator. And you don’t generally study languages plural in college if you’re not very smart.

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    Don’t forget who you were Elon. Trying to erase an image, almost like you no longer feel like that person anymore (or maybe never did)

    Deleted Forever Elon

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    This girl/woman needs to run for office NOW. Which office? Doesn’t matter, she’ll improve it. Seriously. She’s ferocious.

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    14 words breeder shit

    For those who don’t get the reference, she’s calling him a literal NAZI.

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        Wow, what a load of crap. I wonder if Musk really talked about that stuff, which would be taking his shittiness to the next level.

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          He talks about it openly. “Falling birthrates” and “the great replacement” are dog whistles for “white genocide”. They’re talking about how “the white race” is going to “lose” because the white people are outnumbered by people of color.

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            It’s such garbage. I’m not sure why anyone cares about anyone else’s skin tone. I’m lilly white, but I wouldn’t care at all if everyone in the world was an even brown at some future time. Why would I?

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              A lot of people cope by convincing themselves they’re innately “better” than some outgroup. For some people it’s music taste, for some people it’s skin color, etc. A lot of it is subtle bigotry learned during childhood from media and parents. Elon grew up in apartheid South Africa with a father who owned part of an emerald mine, I feel like that could explain a lot.

              There’s also something to be said about the addictive nature of conspiracy theories. Elon was always a “wacky guy” or whatever but there was definitely a point where he went from a typical rich dick to whatever the fuck this is and he seems like he’s pretty far down the “aliens built the pyramids” to “jewish people run the world” pipeline.

              @elonmusk tweets "There is a tiny possibility there might be more to this story than meets the eye" about an article titled "The Awful Truth: Paul Pelosi Was Drunk Again, And In a Dispute With a Male Prostitute Early Friday..." from smobserved.com

              transcription: @elonmusk tweets “There is a tiny possibility there might be more to this story than meets the eye” about an article titled “The Awful Truth: Paul Pelosi Was Drunk Again, And In a Dispute With a Male Prostitute Early Friday…” from smobserved.com

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      Oh. Those 14 words. I thought there was another set of words specifically against child free people.

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      I appreciate you remembering not everyone is tuned into this stuff to the same degree. I just immediately thought “oh, he’s a nazi? That scans” when I saw the 14 words reference.

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      Worthless times one hundred is still worthless. Please don’t compare her to that piece of shit