I feel like true neutral means:
Just watching the world burn because too lazy to care.
also, I would like to kill any ANTIFA terrorists that show up, and report any law breakers to the relevant authorities during my playthrough. why doesn’t the game let me do this? do they just hate centrists? wow, way to make me sympathize with the right.
Its the RADICAL LEFTISTS fault why I hate minorities, why won’t they just be submissive to white power. Clearly the CORPORATE MEDIA has corrupted the minds of minorities since the civil rights act but our lord and savier Orange Jesus will make video games that allow me to enact all my fantasies.
I know, god these people all just hate centrists. their hatred for our centrist values (and totally just that) instills in me an irrestistable compulsion to sell everything I own, move to Fiume and design an occult ritual based on the most completely-missing-the-point ‘fullmetal alchemist’ fanfics I can find to resurrect composite mussolini-hitler.
Bro wants to play Undertale or any other game that lets you do pacifist runs
bro then proceeds to do a genocide run and conplains that it’s boring.
The genocide run in undertale is so fucked that I refused to do it.
I don’t know how it could be boring when the payoff to such a run is this song. Even so, that path is fucking dark.
toby fox knew what he was doing
Reddit be like
yeah this really is what centrism looks like. although I gotta say, a lot of people are so reactive towards this line of thinking that they identify anyone questioning their beliefs as “centrists”. no, not wanting russia to control the world does not make me a centrist. just like criticizing the democrats does not make me a centrist.
Honestly democrats are a little too naive and annoying to say I fully align with them but republicans are straight up dangerous in belief and practice, so while I still criticize democrats I would never claim to be a centrist
Centrists are just lazy at this point. They’re basically “I thing treating people bad is bad, but I don’t want rules and taxes either, so I’ll settle for treating people-not-me badly if I don’t have more rules and taxes.”
The centrists I meet have an extremely infantile view of how politics work— assuming there’s an evenly distribution of representation and power for the left and the right. The reality is that this country has always been right-leaning and is now pushing into far-right fascist territory. To be a centrist in America is essentially a European conservative.
also, more rules and taxes. really im just into treating people-not-me bad. also maybe people like me, if, you know, I think I’m one of the good ones.
Laziest take.
conservatives are culturally inferior. we should make exceptions.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. - W.B. Yeats, The Second Coming (1919)Bullshit
I’m a centrist
The Israeli government and Hamas leadership should both be put in front of a wall and shot
Trump is a lying narcissistic sack of shit, just like Elmo Musk
None of that should be on any political side, those are obviously human choices
Driving 3 million people into a concentration camp and restricting food, water, and medicine is with the intention to ethnically cleanse them is bad, but have you considered that using violence to escape that concentration camp is also bad?
Let’s meet in the middle. How about we only exterminate half of them?
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Your racism is showing.
They forget that centrists don’t mean being in the middle of each extreme. If one side is calling for genocide and the other is calling for the prosecution of those advocating for genocide, a centrist perspective isn’t about endorsing a little bit of genocide or putting a few people in prison.
Instead, it involves investigating how we reached a situation where people are calling for genocide, apprehending the group that could actually commit genocide, and dismantling the institutions that made it possible for people to join that group. This process is resource-intensive and often anticlimactic.
You don’t win by persecuting people, you win by making it difficult to commit crimes. It is a slow process that requires swift action.
The left’s search for idealism is what doomed them in the 2024 election.
If one side is calling for genocide and the other is calling for the prosecution of those advocating for genocide, a centrist perspective isn’t about endorsing a little bit of genocide or putting a few people in prison.
This is not the situation. Both the fascist Republican and the Democratic Party, that’s supposed to be the opposition to Fascism, unconditionally supported arming a state that has not only been committing genocide for over 15 months, but has committed ethnic cleansing, apartheid, and settler colonialism for over 76 years.
Instead, it involves investigating how we reached a situation where people are calling for genocide, apprehending the group that could actually commit genocide, and dismantling the institutions that made it possible for people to join that group. This process is resource-intensive and often anticlimactic.
This is an incredibly far left position to the Democratic Party, which denounced the ICC arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant and the ICJ case against Israel. Nor is it anticlimactic when we know genocide is already underway because of how incredibly well documented it has been.
The left’s search for idealism is what doomed them in the 2024 election.
Do you mean the Democratic Party here? Because what doomed them is ignoring the demands of their constituents. “The Left” in the US is entirely grassroots and had no effect on the policies of the Democratic Party during the election.
You don’t win by persecuting people, you win by making it difficult to commit crimes.
Well provided you accept that you need to prosecute the people who’ve already committed crimes. You can’t just go ooh well it’s society’s fault so let them be
Of course you have to prosecute criminals, what is an alternative for that?
Making them president, apparently
Take the W man.
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Who is?
Oh my. An actual centrist and not a far-right nutjob claiming it to seem intellectually superior. What a sight for sore eyes
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Wait actually? I didn’t check I just took this one comment at face value. The one time I don’t do my due diligence lmao
Looking at a dozen of his comments, that does not appear to be the case.
Criticizing HAMAS =/= genocide supporter
When someone does “both sides” to a group committing genocide and their victims, they are supporting genocide.
If you’re being stabbed and I go “Yes, stabbing random people is bad, but you’re ruining his jacket by bleeding on it, so really you’re both bad people”, that criticism is supporting the guy who is currently stabbing you.
Yeah but that’s not really what he said right? What he said was more along the lines of “Fuck you for stabbing them. Fuck you for stabbing back”
To be clear, I don’t actually agree with them. I was just surprised by a genuinely centrist opinion of “fuck you all for everything”
Edit: Nah I was kinda off the mark with this one actually
Except one side here is committing the genocide, Hamas is not restricting food, water, and medicine into Israel, Hamas is not targeting Israeli hospitals, Hamas didn’t kill hundreds of Israeli children yesterday.
It’s gross to refer to Palestine’s response to getting rounded into a concentration camp and subject to inhuman conditions as if they were doing the same thing to people living in Israel.
But the right think that Trump is wonderful. At least the right in the US do, I think the right in every other country thinks he’s a dork who’s drawing too much attention to himself, and them by extension.
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Why /s?
The top comment is giving a false equivalence of the leaders of Israel who are perpetuating genocide and the leaders of Hamas that are resisting that genocide. There are many parallels to the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and it should be clear to everyone that equating the leadership of that uprising to the leadership of those who put them in the concentration camps is ridiculous
In the Shadow of the Holocaust by Masha Gessen, the situation in Gaza is compared to the Warsaw Ghettos. The comparison was also made by a Palestinian poet who was later killed by an Israeli airstrike. Adi Callai has also written on the parallels in his article The Gaza Ghetto Uprising and expanded upon in his corresponding video
When genocide and no genocide are both too extreme, maybe a little genocide? Or a genocide far away? Or maybe killing a group that doesn’t qualify the definition of genocide?
Or maybe killing a group that doesn’t qualify the definition of genocide?
yeah let’s kill a group of people that is not a group of people
Just shoot madly into a crowd with a low rate of fire. Totally ethical since it’s absolutely random.
congrats you have invented terrorism
Killing the rich wouldn’t be genocide.
But it would be pretty based.
that’s only because they aren’t a sufficiently large enough group of people
The number of people is irrelevant, it’s because being rich isn’t a protected class.
To use another example, it used to be legal way back when to sell cocaine and put it in soft drinks. “Cocaine sellers” were a group of people, but not a protected one. Criminalizing that group of people and explicitly trying to make that group not exist anymore isn’t a genocide, because “cocaine sellers” can’t reasonably be considered a protected class.
Likewise, Antebellum culture in the southern US was heavily influenced by slavery, and slaveowners were eliminated as a group of people, but that’s not genocide, because slaveowners are not a protected class.
Just kill 50% at random. Perfectly balanced
I understood that reference.
Which niche, obscure, underappreciated work of art is that comment referring to?
Half Baked
Well you see that’s why the case must be made they are slightly less human.
We’ll kill everyone born at 1pm
yeah fuck those guys
In a strict reading, killing LGBTQ wouldn’t be genocide because they aren’t all related. On the other hand, they do form a (sub) culture. You can argue both ways but they technically don’t tick all the boxes. So it’s as bad but not jurisprudentially genocide so maybe a compromise we can convince our centrist friend of?
it depends how pedantic you are about the exact definition but I think (or hope) most people agree that would be genocide
It’s contrieved. Genocide is about ending procreation. Is somebody LGBTQ when they procreate?
They do procreate but not necessarily LGBTQ people
Lmafo queer people procreate all the time. Are you being serious right now?
no
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Lesbians can have children on their own if they have sperm from a bank. I met a couple doing that last year and I’ve known lesbian couples who have raised really beautiful families this way.
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Gay men use surrogates or they adopt. Not very different from how Musk uses surrogates with his baby mamas. Also, it’s not uncommon for gay men to marry women and have children.
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Bisexual people can be attracted to any type of human. Bisexuals are often in straight looking couples. You probably know a lot of bisexuals without knowing it. Bisexuals often marry each other, too in M/F pairing. Unless bisexuals are sterile they have no issues having children. They very often do. But they can also use all other fertility methods.
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Trans people can have children. This includes trans men (biological women who transition can still get pregnant). And trans women (men who transition can still get others pregnant). Both can be in relationships with people that can either get them pregnant or get their partner pregnant. I actually knew a trans man who got pregnant multiple times by their non-trans husband.
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Queer is a huge group and it includes Asexual people. Asexual people can still have sex, get pregnant, and get others pregnant.
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Adoption and surrogates are open to all people. Including normal straight couples. Anyone can have children if they want children. In America, parenthood is a fundamental right.
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And to define that this group of people I hate is not a group of people, we asked this judge to weight on the matter.
No we didn’t bribe them. Trust me bro.
To be fair “centrist” in the USA is “extremely rightwing” everywhere else, the USA is super consumed by rightwing retoric
Thanks McCarthy and the red scare! You did a real long-lasting number on rhetoric here in the states.
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I wonder how he/they would feel if they could see the right NOW…
I think you mean McCarthy’s assistant, Roy Cohn.
Just as bad or actually worse are the “Both Sides Bad” centrists.
It’s important to consider all points. It’s also important to analyze them and throw out the ones that are wrong, whether they’re incorrect or inhumane. Blindly accepting all opinions as equally valid is stupid.
This is just more jibledek bunk. Typical jibblist prattling on about their things and giving not a single consideration to the obivous pliquist arguments against. And all this even after the main hedging of Two Whistlers!
Ridiculous.
OP’s definition of centrism heavily influenced by CIA/media/zionism.
